Punar Vivah 23rd November 2012 Written Update

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Punar Vivah 23rd November 2012 Written Episode

Episode starts with Yash’s family continuing celebration of Diwali. Aarti and Shobha ji looks uncomfortable and buaji has an eye on them. Buaji says, something is definitely wrong.. this new guest has brought something with him. She decides to look into it.

All brothers and Prashant are going to play Taj (card game). While going, Prashant clashes with Diyas and his shirt gets dirty. Yash takes him with him to give his clothes to Prashant. Seeing Diyas off, buaji is even more confident that something is wrong. She says to herself, Diyas went off as soon as he came to this house.. God knows what more will happen when he stays around this house for long. Aarti comes there and lightens the Diya. Aarti tells Buaji, nothing like what you’re thinking will happen. Aarti continues, what I say.. I definitely do. Buaji gives an angry look to Aarti. Aarti takes Diya from Buaji’s hand leaves from there. Buaji swears that she won’t let Aarti and her attitude stay in this house for long.

Yash gives one of his shirts to Prashant and in that he drops Arpita’s photo. Prashant picks it up and returns to Yash. Yash says, it’s my first wife.. Arpita. Prashant asks Yash if he can tell him something. Yash says, you don’t need permission in friendship. Prashant asks Yash, don’t you think.. it’s better if your past doesn’t come in your present? sometimes photographs can create many issues. Yash says, you don’t know Aarti that well. This is what is good about Aarti… she has no problem with Arpita’s photos. She actually respects Arpita a lot. read full updates daily only at Prashant says, no.. I don’t believe you. There is no woman in world who can share her husband. He says, I am sure that all these photos must be making Aarti feel that she doesn’t have full rights on you. Yash says, you might be right, but Aarti is different. And 2nd marriage is different than first one. Prashant asks, have you tried reading her heart? What does she want? Prashant now says, leave all that. But tell me, if Aarti had kept her first husband photo with her like this, would you be able to accept that? Yash has nothing to say. Prashant then says, so you got answer right? N you must have felt little jealous as well. Prashant now goes to the wash room to change his clothes. Yash has lost into some deep thoughts and Aarti comes there.

Yash sees her and puts the photo away. He goes to her and says, I want to ask you something.. and you tell me the truth. He asks, do my past, Arpita’s photos bother you? Does her past affect our relationship? A woman can’t share her husband’s love? with his first wife’s memories? Aarti says, I never said anything to you.. why are you asking me such stuff then? Yash says, Prashant made me realize this. Prashant comes out from the washroom and sees angry Aarti. Aarti says, I never said anything,.. then who gave an outsider to say in our personal matters? She says, I am sorry.. but he can’t decide what I like about my husband and what I don’t. So it’s better if he stays in his limit. Aarti is leaving, but Yash holds her hand and stops her. Yash tells Aarti to relax. He says, this much anger is not good for you.. and I shouldnt have told you all this like this. Prashant doesnt say anything and just watches all this. Yash now asks Aarti to smile a little.. for him. Aarti smiles and then sees Prashant. All smile disappears now.

Break 1..

Aarti leaves from there. Yash turns back and looks at Prashant. Yash apologizes to him, but Prashant asks him not to apologize. Prashant says to Yash, no matter what kind of person I am.. but you’re just too innocent. A wife who cannot see her husband talking about her to an outsider… how would she like her husband thinking about some other woman? Prashant then says, leave all this. Let’s go and play Taj. I feel that I am going to win today. Prashant leaves keeping Yash lost in thoughts.

All brothers and Prashant are playing Taj. And all the ladies are watching them playing Taj. Prateik wins first hand. Pankaj tells Prateik, only my and your lucks are working. Either you or me winning everyday.. these two (Prashant and Yash) are flop today. Vidhi says Pankaj and Prateik won’t play now as others should get chance to win as well.

It’s Yash vs Prashant now. And it is a big hand. Panjak says whoever wins this will be winner and other will be loser. Prashant is taking out money from his wallet and Buaji is looking at his wallet.

Break 2..

Prashant wins the hand. Prateik says, Yash has always been unlucky in gambling. But there’s a saying.. “Lucky in love, unlucky in gambling” and Yash is an example of that. Aarti and Yash smile.

While Prashant is putting money back into his wallet, Buaji notices some kid’s photo in it. She takes the wallet away and sees Ansh’s photo. Buaji asks Prashant, how did you get so close to Ansh in two days? Buaji then tells everyone Aarti stayed with Prashant for 2 days in Lalithpur, then how did they get so close that Prashant put Ansh’s photo in his wallet? Buaji passes Prashant’s wallet to Yash. Yash looks at the photo and then looks at Aarti.

Episode ends.

Precap: Yash is talking with Prashant’s father. He says, you called me other day because you wanted to talk about something, but you weren’t able to tell. But I still feel something is wrong and it can clearly be seen in your eyes.

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Suni

November 29, 09:31

Afreesh , I haven’t been able to look at all the episodes , many are in HD and simply refuse to load for I don’t know what reason . I have read most . I am so happy that you advised that I review them as I am able to appreciate , even more , the brilliance of the PV taken overall in terms of direction , script , production , cast etc. it seems as though so much has happened on this show , yet still we feel as though it barely moved . Looking back I raised how much Aarti and Yash have changed and ow much they have overcome . We may think that they have moved at snail’s pace but they were two very emotionally scared people !
I will tell you something I heard some time ago that resonates in my mind even now . The person was discrediting the phrase used by married people that – ” this is my better half” . When you enter into a relationship with someone , you should do so as a complete individual not a half . The example was used of two half glasses of water to represent two only half complete people . Both are in need of fulfillment . What would happen to you if you gave your only half to the other person or that person gave what is left of themselves ? One side becomes empty .
This is the case with Yash and Aarti . Both are in need of fulfillment but neither is in a position to give of themselves because they are both emotionally tired just going through the motions of life living only for their children .
I don’t believe that Yash cared about Aarti having been another man’s wife . He is a very progressive thinker and he had no objections to Ansh ( another man’s child ) . He sees women as pure and incapable of wrong and I don’t think that he was mentally ready for any physical relationship with Aarti . He would have felt attraction to a beautiful woman yes . Remember how he danced with the woman at his bachelor party ? But his mind is strong and he maintained his control with Aarti . Maybe his looking at her was a moment of lust or ,more so bewilderment as to who is this woman in my bed, lol ? Did I do right by marrying her ?
When he was combing the girls hair and Aarti insisted she that she take over , he admitted to himself that his decision was correct . He entrusted her with the important task of caring for his children . Step one towards a changed Yash as the children are used in such an excellent way to unite these two .
When Aarti steped into Schindia house , as one of the new bahoos of the house , she did so quietly almost defeated . She was going through the motions of the day with no joy other than Ansh . I don’t think that there was defiance in her at this time . I believe that two broken hearts understood each other’s needs . Yash had allowed Ansh to come along with them , He recognized her immense love for him .Aarti could sense and respect Yash’s love for Arpita . She herself did not want anyone to erase Prashant’s memories ( it was so hard for her to go through the ritual for the dead spouse ) Why should she erase Arpita’s place in Yash’s heart ? Here we also observe her sense of fairness as well . Later we saw it again when she made purris for the girls and not only for Ansh . She knew her responsibilities and whom she came there to please . She did not believe , but later learned , that her responsibilities also extended to the entire family . Her loyalties remained to the Dubeys and when Gayatri told her to make her mark over Arpita’s handprint , she had no reason to obey her . I think that maybe a part of herself did not want to become Arpita . Her character and sense of identity is much to strong to assume another’s personality . But she is fair enough as to not erase another’s existence . Yash’s subtle smile showed that she was correct and he was relieved . They were creating between themselves a language without words . In the car scene to go to the girls school , they again answered each other without questions being asked .
Maybe their union was strengthened because they both had shattered hearts . Maybe they understood each other because they saw life through similar eyes . No one else knew nor could they judge their level of pain . They gravitated towards eachother because they felt comfortable being their miserable selves together . They did not have to put up any act and pretend to be happy , as they did with other people since neither forced the other to be anything but their true selves .
Sorry to keep you waiting Afreesh .

74 Comments

Aarti
July 04, 21:13 Reply

Hey who ever wrote this is a fraud stealing other peopls ideas u suck
prsv
November 26, 11:13 Reply

i too can understand sophia as am also a student.i think ur a north indian and how com u know talugu.
prsv
November 26, 10:46 Reply

shophia i am glad u know telugu. by the by am happy that after long time i am able to read ur comments.thank u
- Sophia
  November 26, 10:59
  
  Hello prsv,
  thank u for ur kind comment.
  As i’m vry busy with my tests,exams i was not able comment in past weeks
Sophia
November 26, 10:32 Reply

Hi afree
yes,yes learn frm debina such a aspect(ha..ha..ha).some beautiful girls like me will in come in middle like passing cloud but flys with ur hubby away….lol…lol…lol.
- Sophia
  November 26, 10:35
  
  Don’t worry afreesh I’m just joking
- Afreesh
  November 26, 11:42
  
  Hey naughty Sofia…I don’t worry dear…you just can’t imagine how confident I’m…
Sophia
November 26, 10:10 Reply

Rightly said suni,unloved child may become as uncared mother.as their is vry famous proverb in telugu ‘moki vaganidhe mani vangadhu’ which means if the plant is bent n tied with a rope with the means of stick. it grows into the huge tree by bending only.though how much we try to make it’s posture normal we can’t do so.but if the plant is grown freely we can’t bent it when it becomes a huge tree.so,frm now onwards(at young age)we need to listen to mother.as well as she should also think 1 to 10 times,10 to 100 times in the views on her child
- Suni
  November 26, 12:10
  
  I agree with your logic Sponhia . You are wise beyond your years 🙂 . By us there is a similar saying which says that you can’t staighten a tree after it has become bent . Young people need to be guided and nurtured as it is more difficult to change people who are older and set in their ways . I think that many people take for granted their ability to learn and reason and understand situations . Their are many unfortunate people who did not have proper guidance and have problems as adults as they were not taught the correct skills or faced abuse or rejection growing up and can’t adjust in today’s society . You are very fortunate to live in a caring home of thatI I am certain, from the confident way you express yourself ; you have assurance of your parents love. Both adults and children need to try and understand each other . Some adults do seem to forget that they were once children .Sometimes I think that I am still a child at heart forced to deal daily with adult scenarios , lol . Enjoy your childhood sweetie . You too Prsv 🙂 .
Sophia
November 26, 07:39 Reply

Suni there will b no mother in the world without loving their children.they always want their child to b first or to win n have a sucessful life in any field.in such cases they may misunderstand our atitudes n views upon it.for such a thing we can’t say that they r wrong.n also we can’t say that ur opinion is wrong.we should try to make them understand but not simply blaming on them.what they do is only for our good.if realize it we will b happy or else we must suffer.ofcourse extreme love n caring towards their child will spoil them.so they must b ………..:even evry child loves their mother but they gets horns when they enter into teen age.in such time mother should show them the right steps to reach their ambitions.
- Suni
  November 26, 08:46
  
  Sophia dear , I have witnessed cases that unfortunately makes me question Some mother’s ability to properly nurture their children . I am not being judgmental , merely stating what I have observed . I always try to understand why people behave in certain ways . What motivates or demotivated them . Is it genetics , social baggage , culture ? I will agree that all mothers will have love for their children , but not all are able to express that love in the correct way . Some allow their love to blind their judgement and they do not correct the wrongs that their children do . For example , Gayatri allowed Yash to well ow in the past for way too long . . Some do not love enough and leave children feeling empty . There is a cycle that repeats itself , an unloved child may become a seemingly uncaring mother , who may want to love but does not know how to do so . Sometimes people want to change , but do not know how to change .
Sophia
November 26, 06:51 Reply

The writters r DRAGING,DRAGING,DRAGING the serial.

i feel BORING,BORING,BORING to watch this facial.

I’m WAITING,WAITING,WAITING for the serial’s happiest trail.

Plz stop TESTING,TESTING,TESTING our ocular.

U r MAKING,MAKING,MAKING us emotional.

When will u UNDERSTAND,UNDERSTAND,UNDERSTAND fans peril.
Sophia
November 25, 11:28 Reply

In my school we have many activities apart frm studing.i relax n have fun with my friends in such times.n i also go to ground to play badminton with my lovly sis n friends for body fitness as well as to decrease my pressure on studies.
i’m vry free in evry class except in hindi class.my teacher sunita is also emotional,short tempered, smart n strict like u.whenever she enters into the class room,u enter into my mind.
- Suni
  November 25, 12:27
  
  Yes , I understand that SJ would be very busy with that profession . I admire the dedication of anyone in the medical field . I know how much SJ loves the show and therefore doesn’t stay away too long . I did Spanish in Secondary school ….did not like it much . I guess that I will need to become accustomed to students judging me as a teacher .I will always try to remember the qualities of my favourite teachers and try to emulate them . I do not want to be known as short tempered like your Hindi teacher ,… so I will work against that 🙂 .
Sophia
November 25, 11:15 Reply

Suni i think SJ must b vry busy with his work.the field of medicine is vry hard n tough to study n also practicals r not so easy.
Suni
November 25, 11:05 Reply

SJ , what’s up with you these days yaar? The last time you commented you were very angry with the writers and the story , and you have every right to be . Is your work very demanding these days or have you stopped watching for a while ? I think that they followed much of your advice about Aarti’s wardrobe as she looks great these days In my opinion . Like you advised me before , don’t let the show get you down . Let us see how they will resolve this mess .I still believe that Aarti and Yash will survive this latest problem in their PV .
Sophia
November 25, 10:51 Reply

Oh thank u vry much dear.
Day by day generation is bcoming keen,smart,brilliant.i must b a step forward…..right.

I to wish,hope n pray for ur huge sucess.
U will definatly shine up in ur field.u really choosed a great profession to spread knowledge n education.
ALL THE BEST FOR UR PROSPEROUS FUTURE N CAREER.
- Suni
  November 25, 11:12
  
  Thank you so much Sophia 🙂 . I wish the same to you and all the young ladies who are working diligently towards that prosperous future you mentioned Whether at school or at work . You are very correct that today’s generation is getting progressively smarter . I am glad that your lil sis made you play with her 🙂 . We must never forget to relax and have some fun also .
Anonymous
November 25, 10:22 Reply

I’m also waiting for christmas vacation.
Ooooohefffff! For me every month exams.i’m just 13 but no time to relax.just now my tests r over n results r out.that is why i have no time to chat with u last 2 weeks.thank god again i was the topper of class otherwise i would sit with my books.i thought that i will b free in these 3 days n again i can run.but no chance i was busy in preparing for my youngworld quiz competation which is conducted by ‘the hindu’.i was selected for final round.again elocution comp.again tests,exams.

When will these chistmas holidays will come!
- Sophia
  November 25, 10:26
  
  Oh sorry suni it’s me.by mistake my name was deleted n anoynomus
- Suni
  November 25, 10:37
  
  Congratulations Sophia 🙂 you are a very accomplished and ambitious young lady . You have the right attitude and you will have a bright future with all that hard work . Best of luck for the elocution competition … I am sure that you will be excellent .
Anonymous
November 25, 09:39 Reply

Hi arya
sofia
November 25, 09:11 Reply

Yes,suni these r only the sisterly love works.my sis is a bit naughty but so lovely n cute.she is just 11 but does elderly works.i’m vry busy in completing by project work but she come n disturbed n forced me to play badminton.in anger i smashed it.we keep on fighting.first she disturb’s but my dad always supports by sis.i think all these parents will support the younger ones.

What about u dear?u must b also enjoying in such works……….right
- Suni
  November 25, 09:59
  
  I am almost through with exams . They will send us out into classrooms for a while to get some experience on the job . I am looking forward to Christmas vacation after , 3 weeks Yay ! I had also wondered about Aarti being in Yash and Arpita ‘s photos . It would have been interesting to see some flaw in Arpita’s character . She was too Miss Perfect I think . I agree with you that the writers were heading on a different track before the pregnancy matter came about .
sofia
November 25, 08:49 Reply

Hi afreesh
i can understand ur feelings.but the truth will not b revealed out so easily n fastly.bcoz if the truth had freak out there would b no more story to move forward except the relation becoming more stronger between arti-yash as to look that they r married for 1st time.n if the truth came out next the serial will go on revolve like hitler didi,kaushik ki panch bahuia which went into wrong track without any link between story n serial,with all the stuff as there is no story to move forward.ofcourse this may depend upon writters.

I think so the director of the serial actually changed the reason for yash’s anger after a brief discussion on it.Did u remember the rowdies in mumbai waiting to catch yash,arti in yash honymon photos,yash throwing the arpita photos in anger,these all clues show that the reason behind yash anger is that he is angry on arpita for doing something wrong in bad way.the writers thought next arti will go n prove it what was done by arpita is not her mistake with the help of rowdies as if she knows arpita.that is why she in the photos of arpita’s honymon.so that she will get place in yash’s heart.that is what the thought of writers.but they changed it.i’m talking about all this stuff bcoz they may increase story on this point later since they showed us the hints.

Let’s watch n see
- Aryaa lover
  November 25, 09:14
  
  I always wondered why they forgot about the storyline where we saw Arti in Yash and Arpitas honeymoon I hope they explore more in that and hope the truth unfolds itself soon!!
- Afreesh
  November 25, 13:26
  
  Hi sofia…
  
  Sorry for the late reply….nowadays I lost interest on PV story. you can understand the real reason of my anger if you gothrough our comments on last week WU.
  
  Anyway thank you very much for your concern and I appreciate your new theme & creative idea for developing the story line….
sofia
November 25, 03:22 Reply

glad to hear ur comments again suni n afreesh.
Sorry for my late reply.my naughty sis sonia hid my Ipad somewhere since i smashed her tab
- Suni
  November 25, 08:39
  
  Omg Sophia , why’d u smash her tab girl ? Be alert , she will have it out for you now , lol . . I guess that is how sisterly love works 🙂 .
Afreesh
November 24, 14:47 Reply

Suni….No problem yaar…..take your own time & prepare well for your exams…… let us be away from pv until d truth freak out….I’m very upset with Arthi’s over confidence ……I just can’t digest her disloyal & continious lies & almost I was in crying state when yash poured his feelings with regrets …..

Suni…..Is it possible for any female to cheat yash kind of man????…..honestly speaking, right now I don’t care about Arthi & I don’t have sympathy on her…..but I really worried about yash….poor guy…how do he manage himself once he come to know that her first love still alive????
Yes Arpita pictures disturbed us & he did wrong by keeping those pictures evidently…..but, always he was very honest with his feelings towards Arpita . Intentionally he didn’t commit anything to hurt Arthi’s feelings….as you said, actually there were no one close to him or bold enough to discuss regarding that stuff and also Arthi never discouraged him for doing so….

When the situations are forcing her to reveal d truth immediately, how is she keeping herself cool ???
Her recent dialogue with Maya made me to feel more disgust …….

Anyway…..finish your exams well… concentrate on it dear♥♥♥♥♥♥
- Suni
  November 24, 15:54
  
  Afreesh ,it is no problem now 🙂 . I I have only one more exam and I think I am actually over prepared now , lol . Only some simple practical work from now till next year , nothing too demanding . I thank you for the concern yaar . I am somewhat sympathetic towards Aarti because I believe that just like Yash , she has not had the benefit of having the right people in her life . Whereas Yash has Papa Schindia as the head of the family , I don’t know how much advice he passed on to his children . He seems to allow Gayatri to run the household and only steps in for conflict resolution . No wonder Yash has immature tendencies . Aarti was an orphan , no one guided her or thought her how to think rationally when it comes to matters of the heart . She was probably attracted to Prashant ( I can understand with it being Vineet Raina and not the 1 st Prashant though 🙂 ) and welcomed what she thought was love into her life . Like you rightly said before , Prashant did not appreciate her type of motherly , nurturing love . He was probably looking for someone different from Shoba . Someone who he felt passionate about …he got tired of Aarti . Arti really has no one to help her make correct decisions in her life . I kind of feel sorry for her actually . I think that Yash and Aarti have to work together and think fior themselves about what is best for their marriage and their children . They are adult enough to start thinking for themselves . It wasn’t necessary for Prashant to tell Yash about Aarpita’s photos , Yash should have known that himself . Like you rightly said they are both emotional idiots . It is high time they get some sense . Aarti finally has everything she ever wanted …and that one lie can destroy it all . That is a lot of pressure and she is also pregnant . I remember when she was adamant about revealing the truth when she first found out the Dubeys had lied . There is too much to lose now , everything is so complicated . Those Dubeys really messed up her life more than Buaji can ever hope to do . Who are the real villains in this show ??
- Afreesh
  November 25, 07:13
  
  Suni….I agree with u & now I’m trying to pacify myself with your sympathy towards Arthi’s idiotic attitudes. Actually we viewers conveniently trying to forget d pv story line is all about the remarriage of two parents who has different grief of past life. We are much interested to see ARYA’s romantic & united moments despite of d reality & the existing difficulties on it. But pv team is trying to say d message with voicestream that it’s not easy to get involved to each other unless they workout for maintaining their relationship. If we consider humen psychology, we give more importance & deep love to the dead one rather than the alive person as if we are going to live for ever. This psychology is extremely ruins the life of people who has lost their better half, eventhough they get married to other person unintentionally they torture their second partner by cherishing past memories. Ultimately, the divorced person are spilling their bitter memories & deceitful incidents with the current partner. If at all they come to understand the reality again their life get struggled by insecurity feelings especially when their previous partners regrets for his mistakes. How to solve those factors are the story of pv……
- Anonymous
  November 25, 08:30
  
  Very true Afreesh , human nature is what it is . First marriages are difficult as is , Punar Vivah will definitely be more conplicated . No matter how hard people try to move forward sometimes , their past weighs them down at times . I am amazed that Aarti was never resentful or bitter towards Yash . She misjudged his intentions at first , but afterwards she gave him a fair chance and did not measure him by the same rod as Prashant . I like that about her …that she opened her heart to love again despite all the hurt she recieved from Prashant . I even like the fact that she never wished any harm onto Prashant . I was so angry about her and that continued lie , but I began to sympathize after seeing the pressure placed on her by the Dubeys ….EMOTIONAL BLACKMAIL at it’s best . I saw that the writers used what I call “Soap Opera Magic ” to prevent Ansh from having any pain . I can’t reason with their logic 🙂 . I am happy to see Ansh up and about and not lying ill in bed …well at least for now , still 2 more treatments to go .
  You have said it right that the audience sometimes forgets the fact that the reality is that ,difficulties will exist within a Punar Vivah . Of course this is a work of fiction , meant to entertain and also compete for ratings , therefore we must expect some far fetched storylines at times . You apologized for reassuring me that Ansh would not be a BM donor , but I must thank you for making me think and be more clearly aware that the writers will be erratic at times and play with our sentiments . I took a step back , disconnected a bit focussed more on my own work and decided to see how things work out . I still believe that Aarti was wrong to allow a 5 year old to undergo the procedure …. but Prashant is still Ansh’s father and Shoba’s son . On this matter I am a bit confused , because the writers left the characters with no other choice but the obvious .By that I mean Prashant getting more ill daily , no other option provided by the lazy doctors , no siblings , only poor Ansh . Shoba at least showed sympathy for Aarti , but Mr Dubey is merciless for Aarti .
  Aarti has to grow up , stand on her own two feet , make her own judgements and stop relying on other people’s influence . She confidently told Buaji how she felt . She is in deep crap at the moment and she has to find her own way out . I doubt that Papa Schindia would stand by her when this truth comes out . Yash has to recognize that Aarti is worth fighting for .,..baby or no baby . He believes her to be worthy of his love . Will she therefore be worthy of his forgiveness ?
- Suni
  November 25, 08:31
  
  Sorry Afreesh , not sure how it went through as Anonymous
- Afreesh
  November 25, 13:11
  
  Suni darling….I wonder why your eyes always catching good part of Arthi & you manage yourself to appreciate her attitude even at worst time!!!!(Ha..ha.ha…ha)
  Suni…I had already mentioned Arthi’s initial behaviours indirectly pushed him to the hell life firmly. In the begining(Nowadays re-telecast of Pv is going on Zee in my place…so, I got the chance to observe things more accurate)she judged him as a big flirt & she felt very detached from Yash until he clarified his intentions during first night(I know, it was by the influence of Mansi’s advice)then she never trusted him until he took risk on his life to save her son. Infact, Yash’s genuine activities made her to recover soon and eliminated her insecurity feelings & hatred energy on men. Then prashand too pushed her indirectly to restart her life by demonstrating his negative face.
  So… being a divorcee, initially Arthi also was suffering by resentful past memories and never tried to understand Yash’s views & found only difficulties with Yash’s family and made things more complicated through her emotional act as long as she punished by them severly. Actuallys she became clear minded as soon as she seperated from yash & she became ready to rectify her mistakes.(That was the moment both of them started missing each other & unconciously falling for each other). When she admitted her love, I felt irritated at first later I understood if anyone is not falling for yash then we must suspect their femininity. (LOL…)
  The fact which is really to be appreciated is, her determination & strong will & sacrificial nature through which she attained today’s yash.(I feel, Prashand frustrated by her dominating nature too. But yash doesn’t mind about it & by accepting her domination he started bahaving more childish nowadays)
  Meanwhile, I should notify d practical reality…if yash married an unmarried smart lady then d conflicts might be minimised than what he faced with Arthi(That’s what Gayathri was seeking for her son). Finally the first message of pv team is pure & strong love can eliminate the bitter past life memories gratually.The current track of pv is concentrating on how to manage the second challange of divorcee especially when their partner regrets for their mistakes. This is a very sensitive issue to be handled properly….how much they hurted us by doing crap on KC???? I don’t know d outcome of future episodes??? but we should appreciate them for bringing up bravely the issues which are caused by men partner & their family….
  
  1. Insulting their second wife without guilt or manners & taking them as granted
  2. Torturing them by ex-wife memories & pictures
  3.Blaming them for their mistakes (3 times yash became closer to Arthi unconciously but instantly he blamed her eventhough he knew his involvement -1.Bed scene when he had fever, 2.Palak Birthday, 3.Mumbai incident)
  
  More over, I should discuss about Dubey & shoba….By d influence of Depak Chopra I have learned to see & take people as they are without any judgement. I can’t see them as wicked people, however Prashand is their only son despite of their advice he ruined his life & now counting his days….in such situation any parent would try to adopt any act for saving his life. This is what they are doing & they have every right to get help from Arthi as they had done much for her. If they didn’t force her to get married, Prashand’s life may become fruitful since Arthi was waiting for such moment to happen….now we need to think who is d real cause for Prashand’s misfortune????
- Suni
  November 25, 14:11
  
  You are so fortunate to have those repeats of PV at your place . Gives me another reason to want to come live in the UAE besides the gorgeous guys lol .( still on my mind yes 🙁 , I will find a way yet ) . I agree that Aarti was not perfect when she entered the Schindia household . I don’t know if I would attribute that to her being resentful, though . I think that she simply did not know how to behave . At the Dubey’s home ,she pretty much had her way , she often made her opinions clear to Shoba . Shoba , in all fairness , never really treated Aarti as a daughter- in -law . At the Schindia’s there is an established order that Aarti had to adjust herself to . Previously she had to care for only the Dubeys and Ansh . She now had an entire household of new personalities to figure out . Aarti is smart and strong willed , she had to learn discipline and order to fit in and calm her temper .
  I believe that she started judging Yash differently from the moment he said that he did not want a physical relationship with her . I don’t think she actually believed that such men existed . The fact that , to this day , she still defends Yash’s love for Arpita , means that she respects Yash’s ability to love a womn wholeheartedly . I am amazed that she accepted his obsession without any outward signs of jealously . Any other woman would have resented Yash’s obsession . Which is why a young , previously unmarried woman would have caused conflict in Yash’s life . I used to think that Aarti supported Yash’s madness , but now I believe that she stood patiently by his side , never forcing his love for herself . It could be that she did not know how to handle Yash since she tried the caretakers methods . She was desperate to try anything because she had promised Gayatri . . But I believe she sensed his affection for Arpita was fading when she made her pronouncement of loving him . We all saw a change in him .
  
  Imagine if she had walked into his room and immediately began removing Arpita’s belongings . Yash would have thrown her out in an instant .
  I agree with you that the PV team have undertaken a major issue of Punar Vivah , both with Yash’s dead wife obsession and Prashant real life regrets . I always believed that women love more strongly than men . I guess because most men seem to need women for companionship whereas women need men to complete them in some way . When Yash 1st got married , even Papa Schindia felt that all Yash needed was a lover whereas Gayatrii wanted a replacement for Arpita . Therefore , someone to love and support him . I am admittedly surprised ( I know you will frown now ) that Yash treasured Arpita’s memories so deeply . I know we questioned how genuine was that love , since he loved her from a picture , but the man seemed to be in real pain to lose her , nah .
  
  I understand your point about the Dubeys . My problem with them though , mainly Mr Dubey , is that they would rather resolve matters with a lie vs the truth . They even made Ansh lie . That is very bad of them , given that they should be advising the younger generation . I will admit to feeling sorry for Prashant , but I did not want Ansh to be at risk to save him . In real life situation , y risk a young child to save someone who has lived life ? But thank goodness this is not reality . I understand that law of forgiveness , it is one tough pill to swallow . Sometimes we forgive , but just like Aarti , we find it difficult to forget .
- Afreesh
  November 25, 15:09
  
  Suni…you need to gothrough May 1 week episode for clarifications…when he changed Ansh school and told her to trust him, she said desperately to herself trust you?…How?… I have lost trust on people & bond of realtionship….
  
  yes…you are right…her motherly & nurtured love accepted his madness & any unmarried lady can’t tolerate yash as Arthi did (I noted that point for practical life situation not in this drama). Initially,she respected him more just because of the love he carried for his dead wife which was denied for her by Prashand but later she was getting hurted by hearing Arpita’s name from yash.(though she didn’t express to him, her facial changes are the victim to us)
  Next day of Palak birthday, Prateik gave her a CD which was d demo of Arpita& Yash closeness, while watching it she said to herself “why I’m feeling weird ofcourse I know very well that Yashji loves Arpita”. But, she patiently accepted those hurts since she respected & trusted him deeply.
  Suni…I respect her sincere and dedicated love, there is no second openion on that. She is ready to do anything for his happiness…
  And I strongly agree women love is always & all the time is virgin and deep than men love
- Suni
  November 25, 15:52
  
  I fully accept your point about her hesitance to trust Yash’s decision when it pertains to Ansh . I admit to having forgotten about that , I will check the episodes you mentioned . I know that you must be resting now Afreesh . I will wait for your reply tomorrow . But do you think that a real life situation , with the same constants as this PV , (as it relates to the family dynamic ) would have been just as complicated ? I accept that certain points are overly dramatized , such as Yash’s obsession . But , what about situations where the second wife is always compared to the first ? Or like you rightly said , bitter feelings are harboured from divorce . Only through love and compromise can such matters be resolved . But how strongly do you love a second husband or wife in reality especially with so much against the relationship . Is it , most of the times in reality , marriages of convenience rather than love ? Only some are lucky to have it all ?
- Suni
  November 25, 19:04
  
  There is an article on TellyChakkar entitled” Gourmeet usually gives in after a fight with Debina ” You should read the comments ! Someone said that they only tolerate Debina because of Gourmeet …, Ha !!! He also wanted to do some dancing show with Debina and someone said ” who wants to see that ?? ” LOL That is so funny to me ! I am also sure that I am not the only one who gets upset whenever I see so many pictures of Debina on the PUNAR VIVAH FACEBOOK PAGE …. I am trying to catch up on what I missed 🙂 .
- Afreesh
  November 25, 22:43
  
  Suni ….some of your valid questions I didn’t answer…..me too have many doubtful questions about yash’s ghost love (if you remember my earlier discussion I always mentioned obsession not love). If you have time pls gothrough Arya scenes from 2nd April to 10th May….
  Then we can discuss d different aspect of their feelings apart from love.
  
  Dubey didn’t consider Arthi as like as prashand from beginning…..whatever the favour he did for her was the desires of shoba not his own will. I think, if yash throw Arthi in d coming episodes he may happily welcome it. He doesn’t give importance to moral & values when it weighed with Prashand. So…pls leave him from our discussion
  
  Yeah….upto my understanding & knowledge the success rate of remarriage is very poor especially with the women who has child. Most of the female need to sacrifice their own children to continue their married life with the new partner. If we observe from Pv, they have indicated that reality nicely through Ansh characterization. I remember someone commented why Ansh always getting all sufferings and not palak or payal…..this is what happens in real life, I don’t hear or known any stepfather like yash, but Arthi kind of stepmother are available in real world (willingly or unwillingly they accept their husband’s child for d sake getting his love) my friend mother is d typical evidence of it. (My friend always complaint her mother gives first preference to her step daughter). Pv team brilliantly resolved children part by bringing mutual willingness & support to take care of their children. (Very good +’ve approach ). Apparently, lucky people may find true love & trust from the second partner because first marriage itself finds a lot of conflicts nowadays…..(ha…ha…ha…)
  
  Me too…..don’t even glance at Debina pictures & I’m wondering how she managed to keep her married life successfully with him….we need to learn such aspect from her…(Lol)
- Suni
  November 26, 06:35
  
  You know Afreesh , I am reminded of the saying that ” The more things change , the more they remain the same “. I live very close to America and the influence of their culture is great on our society . Women here , as in that land , take many of their privileges for granted . They try to live completely in a man’s world , often times losing their femininity in the process . They want to party and drink like men and dress in a way to impress men rather that to respect their bodies and their families . They take their freedom for granted .In Saudi they recently passed a law that will notify the men’s folk whenever a woman tries to leave the country . I understand that women are also not allowed to drive or go out unaccompanied . As a woman it pains me to know that -even in the 21st century – women still have to struggle to have equal rights . While in other places women take that freedom for granted .
  Take for example prostitution or pornography or even the exotic dances on music videos and in clubs . There will never be justifiable reasons for such behaviour by women . At all times women should respect their bodies as something sacred . Many give the excuse of their financial situation , but I think I would rather starve than do that to myself . .
  We work so hard to compete , and women surpass many men intellectually , but in the end we are faced with having to balance work and family responsibilities . Or stay home like Vidhi and Aarti . The writers sent a very negative message with the Paridhi story . I know her methods were wrong , but why deny her the right to work in the first place ? Like you correctly said , it is mainly the woman who has to compromise in a remarriage . As though she should be eternally grateful for a second chance and make all the adjustments . I am very saddened to hear about your friend . But that unfortunately is the reality . Let her know that she shouldn’t take it to mean that there is anything wrong with her personally . Maybe her mother believes that as her biological daughter she is assured of having her child’s love but she needs to win over the love of the stepdaughter . I am always fool enough to believe that mothers genuinely love their children but sometimes they don’t express it in the right way or may not even be aware that they hurt their child . People tend to create a world that best suits THEM , a sort of coping mechanism in order to adjust to change .
- Afreesh
  November 26, 11:58
  
  very true suni….more things changes and more things remains same…..Exatctly this is what happening everywhere.
  
  I remain your words… we are very lucky for coming up from a peaceful surrounding & amazing culture. The way you explained about your place I understand how much you are keeping or protecting yourself from the spoiling storm which is very near to you….
- Suni
  November 26, 12:22
  
  True Afreesh , the spoiling storm is very near . I would rather stay home and sleep than party or drink . I don’t care if anyone says I am boring . I will read or converse with a few genuine friends and focus on my future . What upsets me most is that some women struggle for independence but run into the arms of unworthy men who make a mess of their lives . Also when women do not respect themselves , which man would have genuine respect for them ? . I believe in equal rights for women , but I think that some women must understand that men and women are different not only physically but mentally . There are historical reasons for the present decline in some societies , so much went wrong a long time ago and it is difficult to change it now .
- Afreesh
  November 26, 15:26
  
  Suni ….always I have much respect for you in my heart and nowadays it’s increasing more and more my dear friend….your views are more valuable….you know Suni, our type of female are really challenging to the men as well as to the society at the same time we have to face more difficulties than the female who doesn’t know the value of themselves. Honestly speaking, we should learn many things about the reality of life. Most of the time, I felt there is no bigger idiot in the world than me. There are certain things need to be solved by cleverness not by straight brilliance, but I don’t like to act in a clever way. You know very well that I always see Arthi with microscopic eyes….why I hate her? …Depak chopra says which nature you hate from a person is you have within you. Yes….it’s true they way she carry troubles to herself by helping others….this is what I always do & make my days miserable. Except her extreme level of sacrifice tendencies & disloyal, the characterization is almost matches with me. Actually I’m learning my lessons through Arthi&yash characterization. I know very well that yash is my mirror, but I’m very sure that we can’t see any man like yash in the real world.
  You know Suni, why I’m interested on discussing these people…..in this open chat forum we can’t analyse ourselves directly, but we are learning from each other through them.
  Suni…if you want continue your chat here itself not on 26th WU….
- Suni
  November 26, 17:17
  
  Afreesh , you know that I always defend Aarti 🙂 I just hated her choice with Ansh the most . . I have soft spot for her because I know her intentions are pure . I admire her kindness and tenacity as well as her strong will . I always appreciate your honesty and caring nature Afreesh and you being like Aarti only makes me respect you more . . . I will tell you something that I have observed from reality . If you do good for someone from your heart , without expecting anything in return , you do not necessarily recieve a good turn from the same person you helped . Sometimes someone else does something for you at a most needed time . I believe in the laws of Karma . I believe in universality and I know that good people only stumble but never fall . We get out of this universe what we put in . Life is so fragile , so precious , so unpredictable . We need to appreciate every moment and try to learn from every situation . I always question myself . I accept that I am not always right .If there are no challenges in life there will be no growth within a person . I have learnt to be happy because I really have nothing significantly wrong in my life worthy of complaint . I will admit to having off days when I want to wallow in self pity and ice cream and double chocolate cake mmm 🙂 , but I try to avoid them with a sometimes forced smile , which I consider to be superior to a frown .
  Do not be so harsh on yourself yaar . You are much to intelligent to ever think yourself an idiot . People tend to dislike hearing the truth . Yash did not like Prashant’s words about Arpita . He does not yet have the wisdom within him to understand how his actions , with regards to Arpita , affects Aarti . Prashant became wiser only after he lost everything , even almost his life . He has gained great insight , but too late . There is no flaw in your character , if your only fault lies in , extending yourself wholeheartedly and truly to others .
  I trust that genuine men do exist . I don’t know how many there are though , lol , but they are out there 🙂 . What I understand is that we may not find Mr 100% Perfect . Maybe he might not be Prince Charming handsome , like Yash , but he may have a kind heart . Maybe he might dislike Indian Soaps , while I love them , lol . It all comes back to the Punar Vivah theme song ….Ye Dil hai . It is all about how the heart feels . If your intellect is sound , I believe that it is safe to trust your heart ……
- Afreesh
  November 26, 23:34
  
  Suni…..always you try to make me cheerful, but sometime we need to watch ourself with deep look otherwise we can’t change. You are right, if we help or make hurdle to someone it’s not necessary that the same person will do the same for us ofcourse other one will exist to do that.
  I have no doubts in that concept & even I don’t have any regrets on it….
  The question is whether we do for right person or not???? What I found is everyone is bright & clear and knows sharply what they need and how to get it. Simply saying whom we under estimate those people are very clever than us & brilliantly they utilize us & we don’t know how to use our power & energy for our own benefits…..this is what I learned about myself through Arthi, when she decides to help others all her confidence & smart moves & courage & attitudes fully involved and utilized but she becomes numb for her own problem. This is what happens in real life, if you watch closely those who are fantastic to resolve other’s problem may find difficulties to solve simple matter for themselves. Most of the time her bravery leaded her to talk & act useless (here I refer the scenes of April & May…..you justified it as she doesn’t know how to manage herself to the new atmosphere….if so, she need to keep her mouth shut until she understand the new environment…..right??? Why she talk?? What made her to talk?? Her confidence & bold nature….right??? This is what I mentioned we need to learn from Arthi what we shouldn’t do…
- Suni
  November 27, 12:08
  
  My dear Afreesh , imagine what Prashant would have been like today if Aarti had not loved him ? Do you think that he would have reformed ? Or would he have been a bitter villain ? I must acknowledge the brilliance of the PV team at this point . They created an unusual kind of ” bad guy ” the ” unintentional bad guy ” lol . Prashant is stumbling around trying to get a Lease on his changed life. I believe that he is genuinely trying to change . I might call Yash foolish for reaching out to him , but sometimes random acts of kindness can make all the difference in some people’s lives . If Aarti continues to hate and reject him , he might revert to his previous evil self .
  My point is that sometimes even if you have reason to hate, we should find a way to love . Who can say if we love the wrong people ? Who can judge a persons past , their upbringing , what made them what they are ? If you are kind and loving and caring , how can you discriminate about who deserves that love and kindness and care ? You can only be YOU . I understand that we open ourselves up fir hurt when we do this , but there is a famous quote – better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all . Think of it in this way . When we give love it grows slowly , but hate burns like a raging fire in an instant . Better to give love and expect nothing than to hate and know exactly what you will get in return .
  I know what you mean about Aarti , she was so arrogant when she first entered Schindia house . But I maintain that she did not know how to behave . It was not in her nature to just shut up . From the conversations she had with Shoba , she had no restraint when it came to her opinion . Gayatri is no Shoba . What I respect about Aarti is that she was ABLE to change . Even though it took a great shock ( almost losing Ansh and her Remarriage) for that change to occur . Not many people learn from their mistakes . I do not think that you should go down the same path twice after being hurt however . ” fool me once , shame on you . Fool me twice , shame on me ” . But hold no resentment , make a clean break , move on and leave the hurt behind . Easier to say than do , I know …. But , Aarti needs to face the Prashant issue , get rid of the hate . If she does not bury her past it will bury her . This reformed Prashant is part of her future, whether she likes it or not , she has to accept that .
- Afreesh
  November 27, 13:10
  
  well said suni…you are very positive person more than I guessed about you…
  You know what Depak chopra says “There is no win or loss in life, there is only win & win….if you find loss, it is not a loss that’s your lesson. So, learn it quickly otherwise the lesson will repeat until you learn the lesson completely”. This is really making sense to me, nowadays I’m trying my best to behave with cool mood despite of the bad time or situations
  
  Suni…did you see that April & May episodes? we will start that topic…I feel very comfortable to chat 23rd WU forum, because no one is going to complain about discussing old stuff…isn’t it? (ha…ha…ha…)
- Suni
  November 27, 14:01
  
  Not yet Afreesh , sorry 🙁 . I will tonight , so we can probably start tomorrow 🙂 . I had to catch up on some missed episodes and articles for the past weeks . I tried finding the show on those dates but they weren’t loading . I will try again or I may have to read them . If you are comfortable here , we will discuss here . But I dare say the others are missing you on the regular forum 🙁 .
  I am always battling myself to improve my thinking and understanding . . I thank God that so far I have been given no trouble which I could not bear . I understand Deepak Chopra’s logic . I have to get that book you mentioned . Hope everything gets better soon yaar .
- Afreesh
  November 27, 15:13
  
  Suni…. THANK GOD for saving you from bad people & situations….
  Why I’m insisting you for watching past episodes?
  1.some of the scenes in past episodes I’m not getting the message correctly….
  2. I wanted to get clarity of men mind regarding their attraction with female. For me, yash activities were giving different meaning….I believed strongly that he kept distance with her not only for Arpita’s love eeventually, he clearly got message from Arthi that “don’t touch me “. He might have forced to start feeling that he is sharing the bed with the woman who is other man wife. (I don’t know ….how much I’m right)
  
  when Arthi entered yash house at 2nd April there were the fingers print customs handled by them….Gayathri told her to make it on Arpita’s finger print, since yash doesn’t like as well couldn’t say to Arthi (somehow he made signal) I’m confused how did Arthi made it on empty place ? Whether she wanted to show her identity or she understood yash rejection?
  
  From first night onwards yash was having sleepless night due to her disturbance as well he was not comfortable…fine I understand but that late night (Ansh punished by Gayathri & yash came home very late – Arthi was wearing yellow sarry ) while noticing her peaceful & immediate sleep why he was looking at her with restless or expecting or complaining or disappointment eyes??? (actually I don’t understand how to describe the meaning of that eye sight).
  
  Anaway, I will wait for you….
- Suni
  November 29, 09:31
  
  Afreesh , I haven’t been able to look at all the episodes , many are in HD and simply refuse to load for I don’t know what reason . I have read most . I am so happy that you advised that I review them as I am able to appreciate , even more , the brilliance of the PV taken overall in terms of direction , script , production , cast etc. it seems as though so much has happened on this show , yet still we feel as though it barely moved . Looking back I raised how much Aarti and Yash have changed and ow much they have overcome . We may think that they have moved at snail’s pace but they were two very emotionally scared people !
  I will tell you something I heard some time ago that resonates in my mind even now . The person was discrediting the phrase used by married people that – ” this is my better half” . When you enter into a relationship with someone , you should do so as a complete individual not a half . The example was used of two half glasses of water to represent two only half complete people . Both are in need of fulfillment . What would happen to you if you gave your only half to the other person or that person gave what is left of themselves ? One side becomes empty .
  This is the case with Yash and Aarti . Both are in need of fulfillment but neither is in a position to give of themselves because they are both emotionally tired just going through the motions of life living only for their children .
  I don’t believe that Yash cared about Aarti having been another man’s wife . He is a very progressive thinker and he had no objections to Ansh ( another man’s child ) . He sees women as pure and incapable of wrong and I don’t think that he was mentally ready for any physical relationship with Aarti . He would have felt attraction to a beautiful woman yes . Remember how he danced with the woman at his bachelor party ? But his mind is strong and he maintained his control with Aarti . Maybe his looking at her was a moment of lust or ,more so bewilderment as to who is this woman in my bed, lol ? Did I do right by marrying her ?
  When he was combing the girls hair and Aarti insisted she that she take over , he admitted to himself that his decision was correct . He entrusted her with the important task of caring for his children . Step one towards a changed Yash as the children are used in such an excellent way to unite these two .
  When Aarti steped into Schindia house , as one of the new bahoos of the house , she did so quietly almost defeated . She was going through the motions of the day with no joy other than Ansh . I don’t think that there was defiance in her at this time . I believe that two broken hearts understood each other’s needs . Yash had allowed Ansh to come along with them , He recognized her immense love for him .Aarti could sense and respect Yash’s love for Arpita . She herself did not want anyone to erase Prashant’s memories ( it was so hard for her to go through the ritual for the dead spouse ) Why should she erase Arpita’s place in Yash’s heart ? Here we also observe her sense of fairness as well . Later we saw it again when she made purris for the girls and not only for Ansh . She knew her responsibilities and whom she came there to please . She did not believe , but later learned , that her responsibilities also extended to the entire family . Her loyalties remained to the Dubeys and when Gayatri told her to make her mark over Arpita’s handprint , she had no reason to obey her . I think that maybe a part of herself did not want to become Arpita . Her character and sense of identity is much to strong to assume another’s personality . But she is fair enough as to not erase another’s existence . Yash’s subtle smile showed that she was correct and he was relieved . They were creating between themselves a language without words . In the car scene to go to the girls school , they again answered each other without questions being asked .
  Maybe their union was strengthened because they both had shattered hearts . Maybe they understood each other because they saw life through similar eyes . No one else knew nor could they judge their level of pain . They gravitated towards eachother because they felt comfortable being their miserable selves together . They did not have to put up any act and pretend to be happy , as they did with other people since neither forced the other to be anything but their true selves .
  Sorry to keep you waiting Afreesh .
- Afreesh
  November 29, 14:17
  
  Thanks for your effort suni….but I’m very unfortunate that you couldn’t able to watch most of the scenes. Unless you watch it we can’t discuss on it by reading WU(actually I need your views regarding his expressions. As you know,yash expressive eyes talks more than words.If you consider the latest scenes, during pregnancy issue he asked her ” why are you adamant as if you can’t be pregnant again” eventhough he said it by tongue slip eventually he gave splendid expressions -from that we understood what he really mean it.
  
  Yes…from begining, they understood other’s feelings mutually without words. That’s why he clearly got the message that Arthi is not ready to accept Yash as her husband & she won’t give up her ex-husband and she loved him as like as himself (I think you misunderstand my previous sentence, I didn’t mean that he is not ready to consider her as becasue of she was another man’s wife…there I tried to state that he compelled by Arthi to see her as a other man’s lover. when there is someone in her heart how can he approach her by the symbol of marriage. That’s why he forced himself twice to keep distance with her)
  If I try to manipulate your words “he is not ready to have physical relationship with her”….in that case
  1. we have to describe him as an absolute selfish man who is not ready to consider her desires & needs…isn’t it.
  2.Why should he say no for intimacy? Is he not a man? He doesn’t have any desires or need?
  3.Then,Yash role would become totally beyond from practical man…
  Ok…ok…I will try to co-ordinate your views with mine … “without any guilty feelings he rejected intimacy with Arthi since it was accepted & encouraged by her whole heartedly”
  I just don’t know why I feel… you tried to accomodate your answer by matching recent & past behaviour of yash.
  If my views are correct…then why he become mad when they consummated their marriage?..I thought the reason behind yash’s madness was a complete misunderstanding.
  He thought “How can she own him through intimacy without his love & intention or approval since they both had agreed for a compromised marriage”….(it’s a kind of outburst feelings when a law violated by the person for their selfish motive).Actually, he might have concluded that she cleverly forced him to love her irrespective of his denial.(Ofcourse, the whole situations were almost supported his assumptions….first, she said I love u at beach & with Aman company his possessiveness was being tested then both of them compelled him to have bhang).He might have felt that he had been defeated by Arthi’s intelligence and decided to give her punishment through immense rejection simultaneously he recognised his inner desires & involvement that guided him to punish himself.
  
  I think you couldn’t see that 2nd scence which I have refered…no problem. I agree your explanation for the finger prints. And you have brilliantly pointed out, their shattered heart appreciated the accompany of each other & they felt connected. That’s why they missed each other once they seperated.
- Suni
  November 29, 15:24
  
  I do sincerely apologize Afreesh , for having confused you even more . My disadvantage lies In me having to search for videos with an English translation . I stayed waiting for the videos to start , but most just continued loading or stopped midway . There is no other way for me to view them and understand their words completely . I must admit that it is very difficult to give you the answer you require from simply reading . I did indeed misinterpret what you said about Aarti being another man’s wife . I will try again to view some more , even in Hindi . I must also admit that I am judging Yash in both past and present avatars simultaneously . I will try to avoid that bias and put my view into a better context next time . Again I apologize yaar ….
- Suni
  November 29, 22:49
  
  Afreesh my dear , you are making me fall in love with Gourmeet ! No man would be able to hold a candle to the flame that is Yash . He is so exceptional ! I must , because I am human and prone to selfish thinking ( only excuse I can come up with 🙂 🙂 ) join the growing masses of women who are insanely jealous of Debina . She must have done something great in her past life to have him as a husband . The man has so much power over our emotion . I am mesmerized by his artistry .
  Anyway Afreesh – you see what you have done to me with this current discussion ,lol . I will dream him tonight as would many many others . My research is making me long for a man thousands of miles away who has a very possessive wife . I would not have remembered his brilliance , as I do now , without revisiting those episodes so I must thank you again .
  I saw a couple videos with Aarti in a yellow saree . In one she was giving him his dinner and in another he was staring at her whilst her hair blew in the wind . . He wore a brown body fit shirt and black pants . It is difficult to find the exact episode you mentioned . Do you happen to know the date ? Or can you please tell me what other scenes were in that episode ? I have started viewing them in Hindi . But I have. not. yet found that specific one with Gayatri scolding Ansh ..
- Suni
  November 30, 05:11
  
  Thre are two great scenes that made me laugh so much . One was where Ansh was supposed to stand guard outside the washroom while Yash was inside . Aarti went in to change her saree that had gotten soiled . The first bathroom scene I believe . When Yash saw his shirt and was going to get it Aarti misunderstood his intention and pressed herself closely to door continuously banging and asking to be let out as though Yash would surely have his way with her . He moved slowly next to her , stopped and gave a look that just screamed ” you Idiot ! ” .
  From this scene I noticed exactly what you mean about Aarti being another man’s wife . He recognizes that she wants him no where near her . Her actions blatatantly said that ; Aarti closed that door to intimacy even more firmly than Yash .I think that maybe you are wondering , that as a man , what would his reaction have been had Aarti desired him ? Would he have been so much able to resist her , Arpita or no Arpita ?
  I can only assume , based on his ” worship ” of Arpita , that he would have resisted . He had almost taken a vow as a priest or monk would to remain faithful for the rest of his life to one woman . I can’t forget that scene at the bachelor party however , which erodes my point . He was genuinely affected and seemed consumed by momentary desire . But what good is sex without love ? That would mean using a woman for her body only and not her soul . Could Yash be that kind of man? My core feelings tell me no .
  The other scene – here I move out of context a bit – was the chewing gum scene in Mumbai . Yash clearly desired her at this point . Her brushed aside the drop of water with hesitant hands and observing him on his mission to revolve the gum , one can sense his rising emotions . He ran away from that moment like he wanted to dodge an arrow that would surely slay him . He was gone in a flash befor Aarti turned around .
  I think that we need to consider the effects of bang on the body to understand what led to the faithful night . Alcohol of any kind diminishes a persons ability to reason properly . Therefore affecting the IQ . It makes people sentimental , by us they say ” drunk men cannot lie ” . Yash’s heart guided him into trouble , but only because it had wanted to go there a long time ago and the brain resisted . His dilemma afterwards came when he had to confront his IQ , who having been silenced so rudely , wanted to have a serious talk with Yash . Remember how much he resisted the alcohol offered by Pankraj before he finally gave in an drank . He was about to spill the truth when Aarti walked in with Arman .
- Afreesh
  November 30, 06:09
  
  Suni please…no need to apologize yaar…..the scene which I mentioned was 3rd may episode (episode stars with Arthi saying story to kids & make them sleep, while coming out sees staring yash & serve him dinner then together they go to bedroom there she catch his hand when he slipped by the misplaced slippers and apologies for it then they both goes to bed and take the pillow together then Arthi starts sleeping that time yash gave a complaining look (really I couldn’t make out words for describing that look) to Arthi & then look at Arpita’s picture, which was the mind blowing performance of yash. What I understand from that moment was….. he brilliantly expressed the emotions of his desires & need which was denied for him for no specific reason….
  Earlier you had brightly mentioned, the writers are trying to make out yash & Arthi are made for each other, When the soulmate meets each other ofcourse the connection might be recognised instantly by themselves probably without any proper realisation. That’s why I referred the love existed subconsciously from the moment they started to live together.
  Why I hesitate to complain yash for his denial ???
  None of one was available in his life to point out the reality or he didn’t found any connected person for him as long as he met Arthi. It’s very hard for an emotional man to express their feelings openly to their loved one. But they will show their feelings by action….Yash always heeded his head to Arthi why? He listened to Arthi’s words why? He was curious on her activities why? His stubborn decisions always broken by her why? He always supported her & he never mind about her blunder mistakes why? That was the way he expressed his love & connectivity toward’s her but unfortunately till now the innocent Arthi couldn’t make out what’s going on within him….
  Once they reached comfortable & extreme level of love energy subconsciously, mutually their sensual energy has started to wake up gradually despite of their control. That energy attained its fulfilment when their conscious mind was absolutely absent…. Apart from writer’s motive, we should discuss why yash couldn’t approach her for intimate relationship?
  
  SUNI…WE ARE WONDERING FOR THE CONNECTIVITY OF YASH & ARTHI….WHAT ABOUT US….JUST BY WRITINGS WHY OUR MIND ACCEPT EACH OTHER VIEWS????? WHAT RELATIONSHIP WE SHARE WITH EACH OTHER????
- Suni
  November 30, 06:14
  
  Afreesh ,I don’t think that Yash would have respected Aarti in any way had she simply made herself available to him on the first night of marriage . Here is a man who believes in love . He himself would have felt that Aarti has no loyalty to her first husband and he may not have easily trusted her .
  That beach scene was so profound . Aarti said she loved him and Yash just stared at her as though he was so shocked and immensely confused . You have always questioned that Yash fell in love with Arpita from a picture . When he confessed his love for Arpita , even she questioned him ! Does Yash know the process of “. Falling in love ” ? I mean he just. FELL before , with Aarti there were stages which he resisted at every turn . Can it be that he is unsure of himself and bewildered as to how Aarti can confess ? Aarti got over Prashant with more ease because of the hurt he had caused her . Arpita never hurt Yash . I agree that he thought that Aarti is now betraying her past love by loving him . Perhaps he respected her less for it . I think that he saw right through Aarti’s gum dilemma . Therefore he would have a foreboding sense that she is trying to trap him . I also agree that he felt Aman to be complicit in her plot .
  That is why I say Yash was not ready for intimacy . He knew that Aarti had moved a few steps ahead of him . But he wasn’t there yet . Instead of her waiting for him , she ” tricked ” him into sleeping with her . His stance is selfish , yes . Because like you said he did not consider her desires . But , he needed time to change , but circumstances dictated and the end is what it is .
- Afreesh
  November 30, 08:33
  
  Ofcourse Suni…. not only yash all the men & women doesn’t have respect for easily available personalities…you are right yash is not a men who gets satisfied by only physical fulfilment. Yash & Arthi believed that intimacy without love is impossible….they have same kind of perceptions regarding life & love. I didn’t mean that he was ready to reach her but she neglected him….initially she confronted yash that his decision is perfect. So, he controlled his emotions tightly and made up his mind not to seek or demand love from her even in future. As we discussed she recovered quickly from past & realised her love when he stuck on the car, but she decided not to express her love for ever why?….Arthi is not ready to take Arpita’s husband. Actually, they both are sailing in the same boat…
  Suni….humen psychology is more complicated….they appreciated each other for their love on ex-partners at the same time they were attracted to each other for the same reason. I have to say something openly….here my place the nationals are almost yash kind of personalities, very emotional, good looking, confused about their needs. You know, I have seen the guys who are many years before divorced their spouse for betrayal or anything and not ready to marry again. Why?? emotional man is very difficult to handle unless the partner showers him by unconditional love…I have complains about their females, they failed to shelter them by love….so, their men look incomplete for my eyes…
  But, Arthi showered yash by full of love energy once she realised her love for him. He was happily travelled with that love energy and moved forward from his part gratually ….everything was going better smoothly & steadily but destiny forced them to move quickly that’s what happening now…
- Suni
  November 30, 09:04
  
  That is the way of the universe my friend . Through your thoughts I can get a sense of who you are . I know nothing about your looks , age , social standing or wealth . I consider your mind to be superior to all other things . I guess this is why , in modern times, people have virtual relationships and even marry people , whom they have spoken to only via the net .
  In our case we have only the connmon desire to understand these characters and like you said , by extension ourselves And the people around us . Great works of literature allow you to enter the characters mind , see things through their perspective and emerge more knowledgeable than when you started the analysis . By allowing ourselves to accept the other’s perspective , we are not limiting our minds to just our point of view .
  . Many times we don’t realize how much power we possess . Or how vulnerable we really are . We allow simple things to upset our day and non deserving people to ruin our lives . We do not realize that we can control what and who we let in . But first we need to learn how to do that . We always have to be weary and alert about who to trust . Like you had said before , Aarti fell in love with the wrong person . But the world is so confusing and when we remain overly guarded we prevent our selves from making mistakes and , therefore , from not learning . Sometimes we open our hearts because it just seems correct but we may be proven completely wrong . .We need to find balance . We may be fools for love and poor judges of character at times ,but like Deepak Chopra said , we must learn quickly or we will pay the price of repeating our mistake .
  Instinctively I trusted your reasoning . In most ways it is similar to mine . We don’t always see “eye to eye ” but I respect your views because I have no reason not to do so and I try to understand your logic because we don’t share an exact perspective .
  There is a book by Paulo Coelho called Brida . It deals with the topic of soul mates . That instant pull to someone . He theorizes that the soul continues to divide and it does not discriminate and can become either male or female , but all come from a common place . The book deals with male female relationship , but it also touches on the bond of friendship between two people of any gender . What draws you or makes you immediately aware that someone can share and respect your views ? No definite or purely logical explaination come to mind . Only forces beyond logic offer an answer .Coelho’s views are somewhat different to any other inspirational reader .
- Suni
  November 30, 09:26
  
  Lord Afreesh , you make me want to come there even more 🙁 . All those broken hearted , gorgeous men longing for love but afraid to take a second chance . I feel as though I can handle them well after analyzing Yash . PV has offered us a recipe for dealing with these emotionally scared men, lol .
  Seriously though , I think that although Aarti became aware of her love for Yash , she hesitated because she did not want to be hurt again like she was with Prashant . She knew that Yash was very different , an honest man of character , but I don’t think she felt any closeness to him at that time. She vowed to guard her heart . Better to love in silence than to face rejection . She knew that Yash did not love her yet . Also , she had been coerced by Vidhi an Prateik into falling in love , maybe she did not feel 100. % certain and did not feel comfortable speaking at that time .
  When they spent time together in Mumbai , she felt closer to Yash . . After the run on the beach , her joy was insurmountable and the confession just could not be contained any longer . Remember she told Gayatri that the old Yash was back . She misunderstood his happiness in Mumbai , and her words hung in the air for a long time but could not be retrieved .
- Suni
  November 30, 09:30
  
  I meant to say – closeness from him – …. to him , sorry . That one little word changes my meaning 🙂 .
- Suni
  November 30, 10:58
  
  I need to ask Afreesh , why do you think that the women failed to love them in the correct way ? Is there no flaw in these men that would lead to their wives leaving them ? Or is it that the men and women are on two different wavelengths from each other , like Pari and Pratheik ? We do not pay much attention to Pratheik and Pari , simply because they do not have the same appeal as Yash and Aarti , but I sense that it was intended for their stories to be parallel to each other with many lessons along the way ; as they got married at the same time as Yash and Aarti but under different circumstances .
- Afreesh
  November 30, 12:59
  
  Suni…Depak has explained soulmate theory too….this is what I found from our friendship. You know…I’m an adamant person as like as yash (that’s why I could catch his feelings easily)it’s not easy for me to accepts other’s view unless I found connection with them. I know you are open minded to other’s openion, but I’m not. As you said there are many things happening in life without any logic, sometimes I wonder how could you catch my feelings exacttly even I didn’t expressed with proper words…
  To be honest with you, I’m not ready to accept fully that yash’s promise to Arpita only made him to stay away from Arthi. whether he confused me by his expression or the Pv team tried to say something else??? I don’t know. Please check those episodes from April 2nd to May 10th in the coming holidays…
  I understand he is not ready for sensual pleasure without love.This is what Arthi also felt, but neither of their rejection the attaction towards each other conquered them silently and made them to feel comfortable with each other & mutually they filled their incompletness.
  I believe… if yash comes to know her love before the tragedy, he might have considered her without madness, because he doesn’t have any problem with her care taking methods. Happily he accepted her care & affection without any complaint. Perhaps he didn’t get any clues about her reformation…when he called her to do dance with him (Neelam’s sangeet ceremony)almost like begging way he asked…. and then when Neelam kept Arya’s hand together & said your love is infront of you…he immediately took the hand and said we both are not ready to give up our ex-partners. Obviously, he is not an unfair man to neglect other’s feelings.
  If we consider the episodes of October… eventhough he didn’t realise his love, he behaved sensibily with Arthi & accepted her feelings on him eventually he started staring at her without any guilt…isn’t it???…from that I concluded… her acceptance made him to be free to do certain things
  And in november episodes….he admitted Arthi’s presence is essential for him & his daughters and brought her to home with huge effort and promised to be a good husband then did a lot of things to make her happy but without realising love he plainly acted as if like a care taker.
  Finally giving her hint that he started liking her beauty and need her company but never ready to admit love.
  So….what is his problem???
  Did you noticed?….he is getting more attached with Arthi whenever she gets apart from him…finally he accepted that particular insecurity feelings yesterday’s episode.
  This confused & childish yash couldn’t make out his own feeling even now….this logic is making me to believe he was in love with Arthi a long time back but couldn’t come out just because of Arthi’s unexpressed feelings.
- Afreesh
  November 30, 14:57
  
  Bravo…Suni…this is what I mentioned just now…how could you catch my inner thoughts yaar????……
  
  Yes…I believe that a smart female can handle any kind of man….This is what I have learnt realistically through people & media. You know…man are very simple, they don’t have any shape as like as women. Men are neither complicated nor emotionally strong, but we are really a complex structure and not flexible too. The problem is, most of us doesn’t know our own power and seeking a heroic man as our life partner. Unfortunately, there is no availability according to our demand. We imagine them as something and shocked extremely when we see their original personality. Did You heared anytime….There is no man is hero at home. What I found…most of the married couple are continueing their relationship for the sake of their children or status or society. But, I agree there are blessed couples are still available with mutual love & affection
  
  why marriage become so vulnerable?
  Is that there is no true love exist?
  What we want out of marriage?
  Why nowadays numerous divorce happening?
  
  The simple and clear answer is….men & women confused with their wants and needs. They are getting matured only when they lost everything (like prashand). Sexual attraction make their IQ blind and take decisions without concern of their inner dialogues. When they finally understood they endup with wrong choice, they try their best to come out of that realtionship instead of strengthening it.
  No man can change any women, but a smart woman can easily change a man. Then…what’s the problem???….Women lost their patience due to Education and financial security and they are ready to give up immdiatly.
  If we watch PV message minutely, they are trying to say women should have patience & smart enough to handle their man and their relationships. All their men are simple and innocence eventhough they display themselves as powerful and smart.
  
  By the way… suni we will start our discussion in 30th WU from Saturday
- Suni
  November 30, 16:58
  
  Very , very true Afreesh . Well said ! I often wonder how women can surpass men intellectually but we are supposed to be the weaker sex ? Strength should not only be measured through physical parameters . That was reserved for the cavemen . Women today excel in so many fields that were previously reserved for men . Many famous writers had to use pseudonyms to sell their books as no one wanted to read books written by women . George Elliot was a woman
  History has not been kind to women . With the advancement of the feminist movement I think that over time women have become to carefree , too immoral . As though they are trying to equal men in all ways , not just in their careers . If he can drink alcohol , so can I . If he can have affairs , what stops me ? The docile woman , stay at home mom , wanted to see more than the walls of her home . Vidhi’s type may be close to extinction in the next generation . It is portrayed on PV with each bahoo having a different ambition . Remember when Vidhi had to ask Aarti to help her children with their homework since it was beyond her level ? Aarti is well educated but chooses to be someone’s wife and mother to her children . Paridhi wants what she wants irregardless of who gets hurt . She did not study so hard to stay at home . Unlike Aarti , she had gotten a taste of the outside world .
  I agree with everything you say about men’s emotions . They need strong women to make them strong men . Maybe our answer lies in science . Men have both the XY chromosome , while women have two XX . X is the female chromosome but Y the male chromosome , suppresses the X to produce a man .
  No problem , I will comment there instead 🙂 .
ArVi Lover
November 24, 10:16 Reply

Damn, Prashant needs to die, buaji needs to have a punar vivah (since she’s so miserable, why not find her a miserable life partner) and Yash and Aarti need to continue being the lovely couple that they are. Wouldn’t that be perfect?

Luvya Yash Ji <3<3<3
miss unbeleivable
November 23, 22:45 Reply

so selfish ass prashant in my opinion is set to destroy arti’s marraige

we the viewers have gone through the arpita phase already

yes prashant have some valid points….maybe he wants to make arti happy as retribution but im personally pissed if there is no complaints from the family why are bringing back up touchy topics you idiot?

and yash is too innocent in a way as prashant is just being so gotdamn difficult! maybe he wants his family back because 2nd wife threw him away

uuugghhyh kill the bastard
- Afreesh
  November 24, 05:27
  
  Hi miss unbelievable,
  
  I understand your feelings…..on top of that we should agree d writers has done something wonderful regarding remarriage. We should appreciate Pv team for pointing out the reality of men thinking……
  I feel the dialogue delivered by prashand was the one to be asked long time before by anyone . When a man has the right to cherish his exwife memories desperately why can’t he accept the same from his wife?????
  Why that typical gentleman yash couldn’t reply immediately for prashand’s question?????
  Why Arthi has to respect Arpita ???
  Is it Arpita an angel or goddess ???
  We know, their marriage took place with compromises, but what is the need for keeping his wife pictures at entire room???
  What he wanted to prove???
  When he shared the bed with Arthi, he should think the room is not only for him….why he gave the chance to others to understand about their detached relationship???
  Why he doesn’t have that basic manners of maintaining relationship???
  
  It’s not easy for us to forget yash’s past attitudes….he behaved like a blind & robot man and never try to understand her feelings. Still he is expecting her to accept him with his past memories ……why???
  
  I felt very glad about the question raised by Prashand….I don’t care whether he did it for right or wrong intention. (I hope prashand never try to separate them)
- Suni
  November 24, 10:06
  
  I agree Afreesh , someone had to tell Yash that it was wrong and selfish of him to keep Arpita’s pictures so blatantly around . I know that someone could not have been anyone close to Yash , as they are all still afraid of his reactions to that issue . I was actually pleased to see Aarti part with Arpita’s bangles , I did not like her wearing Yash’s dead wife’s jewelry . I was hopeful that they could be put away as heirlooms for Palak and Payal . I really dislike the fact that Aarti continues to lie to Yash , but I want to see if he will hold true to his promise to stand by her side, no matter what , when the truth is finally revealed . Afreesh , I can discuss more tomorrow if you want , final exam on Tuesday and I am almost done preparing 🙂 .
Anonymous
November 23, 22:28 Reply

Aarti is very very very beautiful and colourful. I love you kratika and kratika’s performance.
Hi punarvivah team, Y all problems were given to aarti? Plz will be give happy in aarti’s life
- Anonymous
  November 25, 10:34
  
  When will yash come to know the truth? I need everything to be solved very fast and differently……
Vahid
November 23, 14:58 Reply

When Yash learns the truth about the prišanta Hey so do Yash poderžival Artie doesn’t destroy confidence so do what Artie bi prišant not be their lives so do u plizz Artie and Yash romance more was I want that Artie was left with no importit series âšom plizz …
funmilayo ayinde amoo
November 23, 13:12 Reply

I think prashant is up to something and his father knows about it.
lover's LOVER
November 23, 13:03 Reply

yes YASHJI is always a LOVEABLE boy

Punar Vivah 23rd November 2012 Written Update

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