Punar Vivah 30th November 2012 Written Update
Punar Vivah 30th November 2012 Written Update by KinSanj
It begins with bhua walking off. (Poor lady, always ends up being told off) G3 says “before you get busy with the household chores let me make pudding for you cooked in clarified butter.” (fattening stuff i tell ya) Aarti slightly smiles with a nod. “Vidhi, come along with me, let’s cook for Aarti.” Aarti and Vidhi leave. Prateik goes to Paridhi. Yash is walking over to Aarti. Prateik says “Pari, don’t you worry.” Yash stops. “I won’t let anything happen to you.” Yash looks at Prateik and Pari. “You saw how bhaiya is trying very hard to save you.” Aarti picks up the file and says “Yash ji you’re file.” Yash snaps out of his thoughts and keeps his hand on hers and says “Huh? But I was…” Aarti says “I know yash ji. I have a lot to talk to you about.” Pankaj says “Shall we leave?” Yash quickly let’s go off the hand. “Yash, prateik?” Aarti says “I’ll wait for you this evening.” Prateik says “let’s go.” Panakaj and Prateik leave for court, paridhi too goes inside. (Question! Ermmm, they are fighting this case of paridhi right? So isn’t paridhi required to be in court as well? Or the defence lawyer has decided not to question her at all about anything. I mean she is accused for a murder!) “And then i’ll say it to you. I know you have something to say to me too. You know you’re eyes speak before you do. All the best! I’ll wait for you tonight.” Yash smiles and leaves for court.
Aarti in her room, vidhi arrives and says “I got juice for you, please do have it.” Vidhi notices Aarti’s photos in the entire room and is surprised. “What is all this?” Aarti says “surprised?” Vidhi smiles, “I too was very surprised. Yash ji found such a nice way to confess his love for me, right?” Vidhi says “what? Yash bhaiya…” (why are you surprised? Funny thing you noticed that aarti was in love way before she confessed, how can you not see the same for yash ji?) Aarti says “My heart tells me.” Vidhi says “that means bhaiya hasn’t said anything to you.” Aarti says “no, but is it really needed? These photos say it all.” Vidhi says “well it’s not a problem if he says it.” Aarti says “Silence speaks it all in love.” Vidhi says “oh!” Aarti says “I don’t want to put him in a dilemma by asking him. You know how much of a shy person he is. That’s why…” Vidhi says “it’s better to ask because our heart only wants us to think what we want. Your heart is your biggest enemy. I want what you’re thinking and i know it will but it’s better to clear things.” Aarti says “okay, if you want then I’ll ask. I hope everything goes well in court today and then…”
The Scindhia brother’s walking out of the court room. Pankaj says “Yash we got our next date. The judge is happy with the arguments. Now we have to collect some evidence that can save pari.” (Pankaj is a lawyer right? Why isn’t he wearing his coat? And why is he wearing a coloured shirt? I thought it was all black and white for the lawyers.) “and prateik, if paridhi makes any mistake like this then i will not save her.” Prateik gets furious and says “you’re calling it a mistake? One can only feel the pain when they go through it! I know my pari, she can’t be wrong anywhere.” Yash thinks “you’re in an illusion prateik, but i can’t even break this illusion.” Yash says ‘Prateik, don’t be upset. We got a chance to prepare then why are you upset? Bhaiya you can understand what prateik must be going through. He spoke rudely to you because he cares for pari, or else he would’ve never done that. Please forgive him.” Pankaj says “I’ll call back home and tell them about today and prateik come along with me.” Yash thinks about Aarti and smiles. (Awww…she’s like a stress reliever for him. The minute he thinks of her a smile appears on his face. Cute innit!)
Aarti is looking at yash ji’s photo and says “I can’t wait till evening yash ji. How much do you want me to explain it to my heart? I want to speak to you right now.” Aarti gives a call to yash. Yash sits in his car and sees Aarti’s earring on the passenger seat. He smiles looking at it and keeps it back. Yash is on his way back home. Aarti cuts the call and says “he’s not even picking up my phone. It’s okay, he can’t escape from my questions when he comes back this evening. Enough of hide and seek, now you have to confess!” Aarti leaves.
Yash turns his phone on and sees Aarti’s missed call, his comes to an immediate stop. (Same problem? Damn that mechanic for not fixing it properly. took Rs 1000 for nothing then!) Yash gets out of his car and sees a garage.
Aarti gets cooking in the kitchen. G3 arrives and says “seems like you’ve taken an oath to not to listen to me right? I asked you to rest but no…you don’t really listen do you?” aarti says “No mummy ji it’s not like that…I was just…” G3 says “turn the gas off and come along with me to rest.” Vidhi arrives and says “Mummy ji, pankaj just called.” G3 says “what did he say? What happened in court?” Vidhi says “we got the next date and the judge seemed to be very convinced. We need to collect some strong evidences by the next date, only then pari can come out from this problem.” G3 says “I hope this is what happens. I don’t want any disgrace on my family’s name.” G3 looks at aarti. “You come along with me and rest.” Vidhi says ‘Mummy ji, aarti won’t be able to rest and nor will she get tired of working today. She’s trying to win her husband’s heart.” Aarti feels shy, g3 slightly smiles. “Aarti told me hearself.” Aarti is unable to look at g3. G3 says “Aarti, thank you for giving me my son and the happiness of this family back. Keep spreading happiness like this.” Vidhi says “of course, and no one will disturb you for now. We’re busy this weekend.” G3 says “busy?” Vidhi says “you’re the one that said that it’s an amazing weekend this weekend.” G3 says “oh yes! How can I forget? I remember it all, you just find me forgetful. I know on Saturday Top 10 contestants of Sa Re Ga Ma Pa will be chosen and on Sunday night we have zee rishtey awards. We are busy indeed, because we’re going to enjoy this together.” Aarti smiles, “Keep taking care of my son like this Aarti.” G3 leaves, Vidhi says “are you going to get ready at all or you’re going to remain in the kitchen all day?” Aarti says “Let me just finish this off quickly and then…” Vidhi says “and then what?” Aarti blushes, “Fine finish it quickly. We have to watch zee tv after this.” Aarti says “Yash ji will be stunned when he comes home tonight. Let happiness remain in this house forever and no problems ever come in between.” (When you say such things, then when things get serious aarti ji!)
Yash brings the car to the garage, he asks the mechanic to check his car, and it’s the same mechanic who fixed the car the night before. (You again! someone get a hold of this fraud. he took the money and didn’t even fix the car properly!) He says “this car broke down again?” Yash says “what do you mean broke down again?” The mechanic says ‘I fixed this car last night on the highway.” (that road was a highway? Yet it was so quiet. ) The mechanic checks the car, yash is curious.
Aarti decorates the entire room with flowers; Vidhi arrives and is surprised to see the room decorated so nicely. Vidhi says “wow Aarti, you completely changed the look of this room.” Aarti says “you’re Brother-in-law is an amazing one that changed me completely. He brought happiness in my life.” Vidhi says “my yash bhaiya is like this indeed! He’s worth the praise but you aren’t less. It’s like god made you both for each other. Both of you do things to make each other smile. You know all this reminds me of when I got newly married. I used to do all this to make your bhaiya smile, but now that age has passed away!” (Oh so this is the issue that you started ignoring your husband? Coz you’re passed that age? ) Aarti says “Bhabi, one should leave their heart as a child. One should keep giving such surprises, then watch how you get your olden days back and wedding is like a pickle, the more the old the better.” Vidhi laughs, “I’m saying the truth. Relationship gets stronger as time goes and no problems can come as it goes.” Vidhi says “done with the lecture? You don’t need to worry about my marriage because i do have other work besides all this. You think about your love. Now tell me what you’re wearing this evening?” Aarti says “I haven’t decided.” Vidhi says “what’ll happen to you If i’m not there? You know where we always buy our sarees from? They have a new collection. I told them about it, then you can chose one from that collection.” Aarti is blushing. “Yash bhaiya you are gone for good today.” Vidhi leaves, Aarti looks at Yash’s photo and smiles.
Yash says “you fixed this car last night?” the mechanic says “yes, madam asked me to finish it off soon and even sir asked me to be quick.” Yash says “whom?” the mechanic says “he was with the lady, tall and very fair.” Yash is curious and thinks “someone was with aarti ji last night? Maybe it was bauji.” Yash says “probably her father.” The mechanic says “no sir, he can’t be her father. He was young. I can never forget them. Sir gave me nice tip, i can’t forget them.” Yash gets thinking.
Aarti gets all nicly dressed. (Sajna Hai Mujhe, Sajna Ke Liye…She’s looking gorgeous I must say) Aarti looks at the time, she sends a text message to yash ji. Yash looks at his phone and reads the text message. It says ‘they say if you wait then the result is fruitful too, but what is one is asked to stay away from sugar.” (I know this sounds weird in English. My brain is sorta switched off so I don’t know what I’m writing. Blame yash ji, his slight smile is what’s affecting me so bad) Yash slightly smiles reading this, he gets another text, that says “the photos are a treat to look at but the smile printed on paper is way different from watching someone smile. Your eyes are lightened in these photos but I want to see those eyes that speak a lot.” (and it starts raining…No not in the show, it’s raining at my place.) “You must be it says “thinking i am crazy too bad I am. I can say what’s in my heart if not in front of you.” Aarti sends another text message to yash ji. It says “better come home before i irritate you by messaging. You’ve made me wait long enough.” Yash smiles, Aarti waits for yash. Aarti says “It’s the limit. No reply either.” Aarti clicks her photo and sends it to yash ji. Yash smiles looking at her photo, the mechanic sees it and says “she was the madam that i met yesterday with that man. Is she your wife?” Yash nods. “I’m sorry I thought she was his wife, because that man didn’t have change and the madam asked me to keep the tip. A husband can’t speak in front of their wife.” Yash gets thinking.
Aarti is on the terrace waiting for yash, aarti says “I can say yash ji that my 2nd marriage means a lot more to me than my 1st. Because it’s important to have a right partner in life and you only brought happiness in my life. I don’t know if i can ever say this to you but the truth is that you’re like a god to me.” (Lying to your own god eh) “I can’t wait anymore yash ji, please come quickly.”
The mechanic fixes the car, yash pays him the money and leaves.
vidhi sees yash’s car arrive and she sends a text message to Aarti informing him about yash’s arrival. Yash is very much in thoughts about the detective’s words on women cheating. (don’t tell me you think you’re wife is cheating on you.) Aarti gets the text message and gets excited. Yash thinks about what the mechanic said and bhua’s words on how aarti’s dead husband holds more importance for Aarti than yash. (OMG! Don’t tell me you’re suspecting your wife) Yash is outside his room, aarti opens the door before yash could. He’s stunned to see her.
Precap: Yash says “Aarti ji you know that trust is very important in a husband-wife relationship. And if there is no trust then that relationship means nothing.” Aarti looks on at yash. (You better tell him now or else you’ll suffer the loss Aarti)
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Suni
December 03, 03:51Should we examine every character on Punar Vivah , which one is without blame or stain on their character ? Which one has been portrayed as a saint ? Only Arpita . I remember you questioning this logic Afreesh . That the dead are given more rights than the living . You are very correct . It seems as though death brings with it a sort of cleansing of the character . They say , do not ill speak the dead , for they cannot defend themselves .
Prashant has been saved by Ansh . Ironic in a way , because according to Prashant , he wasn’t even his son . We saw those words haunt him in Lalitput . He has been given a second chance at life . Saved from sainthood , and being placed on a placed on a pedestal after death . My point is that once there is life , there will be struggle , that inner conflict between right and wrong , but also the ability to learn from mistakes and grow as an individual . We are yet to see how much Prashant learnt , if anything at all. .
Yash , was a jolly guy , very much like Pratheik , in the beginning years of his first marriage . His wife was perfect and could do no wrong in his eyes . He was brought to the brink of madness however , by her death . Maybe , like you said Afreesh , it was his guilty feeling about the part he played in bringing about her early demise , that heightened his reaction . Whatever the reason , Yash became a man totally unlike his natural self .
Life was kind to both him and Aarti when they got a second chance at love , but their hearts were closed towards the gift they had received . Their past weighed significantly upon their future . Here were two individuals , unsure of their future together , burnt by their past, but ,drawn together by their mutual pain . Instead of a marriage based on love , they had a marriage based on despair . Their only joys and reason for a second chance , lay in their children , their link to the future .
Yash had locked his heart tightly away , no one could offer him solace . He shared his sadness with no one for years and expressed himself with few words as though not trusting trust his heart to not to spill open it’s pain . He buried his resentment deep within him , for life had to go on , if only the sake of his children .Aarti endured so much in order to bring about a changed Yash . Much more than any woman would have . When Yash pushed her against the wall and shouted abuse at her , she was already pregnant . The trials she suffered to bring about a changed Yash could not , would not have been tolerated by another woman . She was not simply accepted nor treated nor handed love like Arpita . Her life had always consisted of more sorrow than joy . What were her real mistakes ? Did she deserve such a life ?
Why shouldn’t Yash stand by her side now ? He has been spared a miserable , relatively hopeless life because of her . He can be an openly loving father to his children and a better person because of Aarti . How bad can Aarti’s character be , if she brought about the man that is Yash today ? She deserves his forgiveness . For she has forgiven him . Why is Mr I Can accept No Lie , concealing the truth from his family about Pari ? He is lying to protect Pratheik ,yes . But can he make a square out of a circle ? A lie is a lie . He should consider his own actions when he has to judge Aarti . If he knows her true character . It would be his fault to not forgive her .
Afreesh
December 03, 10:54Suni…sorry yaar…just now I entered home…I will read your comment first then I will reply to you dear…
Suni
December 03, 11:32No problem Afreesh , there is no need to rush . Take your time .
Suni
December 03, 12:52I just realized something Afreesh . Tell me what you think . Each advisor that Aarti had along the way ,offered her a different but very valuable piece of advice that came from their perspective . They were not wrong , but the problem lay in the fact that Aarti followed their advice in isolation , rather than altogether . Gayatri urged her to be respectable to the family’s ways , be a caring wife who is aware of Yash’s needs . Shobha urged her to forsake all others for Yash ( ironic , I know ) make your bond unbreakable by being the caretaker of Yash and his family . Vidhi advised her to love Yash’s children as her own , be their mother as Arpita would have been . The caretaker showed her that she must be in control of her husband , speak out and do not remain at all times agreeable when your views are different . Aman suggested also that she become more brave , she used to be so vocal before , he reminded her of herself before Prashant . He wanted her to use her charms , make Yash hers by letting him see her true self and by adding some romance . … The more we discuss , the more I think . no matter if I am not always correct , but I see things differently . Thank you also Afreesh 🙂 .
Afreesh
December 03, 14:43Suni….I think…I disturbed your kind & tender heart very rudely…my dear friend please don’t take Arthi charecterisation seriously yaar….
very well you said relationship need to be maintained by both of the partners. Yes…absolutely corrct, but unverse always match strong & weak personalities together. Then the key responsiblility goes on automatically to the strong person. Hence, Arthi is an independent female with full of power and energy & can do anything in the world without anybody assistant & advice…but unfortunately she never listen to her heart & mind and relied on other’s belief and thoughts and undertook dangerous risk and erupted her relationship. Perhaps, there is no necessity for her to learn extra ordinary skill to deal with yash…her original self was more than enough. Yash admired her original personality and appreciated her trueself none other than that…
Suni..onemore thing hitting my mind yaar….universe always offers time to do certain things, which is not done by concern person then control goes to the universe hand. Each one has to pay off to their own deeds whether it is done with or without intention….May be this is what going to happen with Yash & Arthi life….When she was running behind him like a sincere puppy, he treated her badly & tortured her by his wrong belief (yes…not by intention but wrong is a wrong) and now he is ready to do anything for her but universe going to torture him by her deception. Similarly Arthi has pay off for her long standing lie and disloyal….Wow
Suni
December 03, 16:36We are figuring out the ways of the universe together my friend ! Karma is an undeniable force . Yes her true self was enough , she had it all within her , but it needed awakening . I think all her trials were necessary to bring her to the point she is at now . But for the sake of the continuation of this show , she cannot simply revealmthe truth . Of course they must hold us at ransom with their plot .
You have hurt me in no way Afreesh . I am not so thin skinned . I understand that you will have your views and I my own . We come from different backgrounds and upbringinings . We offer our views according to what we have learnt along our journey through life thus far . That is what I appreciate the most . Though we are different we always try to find ways to agree .
Rest well and I hope you have a great day tomorrow or more accurately today ( by you ) 🙂 .
Afreesh
December 02, 16:19SJ …..only you are concern about Arpita’s bangles….but Arthi never mind…..what about maya ? Why didn’t she catch Arthi till now regarding the bangles ???…….I think, through that pharmacist’s call only Yash will come to know something is wrong with Arthi……Now, I understand, you are very angry about Arthi’s idiotic attitude more than me….cool dear
Prepare good for exam….forget about Arthi…she has to pay for her mistakes…let her learn her lessons
SJ
December 02, 22:44Afreesh agreed , the reason am concern Arthis bangel because these bangel are arpita’s bangel and
very important for Yash and his family. Like I said this is test for both of them , if yash love her
He should forgive arthi and If arthi loves yash she should not be concern about Parsant and should not go back to Parsant
SJ
December 01, 18:31Yes Afreesh you are totally right that is what. I Ment, why she is ruining her life and yash life
Her loyalty goes in somewhat Yash too, he had all the right, she knows he hate lies, she should know when ever she will tell explosion going to happned anyway there will not be calm situation for anyone , she should know truth always comes out anyway so why is she holding. She is smart thinking girl she should know how wrong it will be when truth will cme out. All she is thinking Parsant. She can not ave both way.
Yash was doing saw thing he was putting arthi to hell giving eye lock wrong singalong and did not want leave his dead wife.
I do not like when she sits on front and got engaged with him about his life and giving advise about love. She should shut him up. She can not have both way, like I am upset on karwachouth she should call ambulance and should one hoe, yash kept fast , why sh did not think f him. I am worried she did nt got back arpita’s a gal she gave to pharmacist
Why she took Prsant with her to drop Ansh on first place dd nt take dubeejee .Sometime saying sorry is not enough. She said once to yash too in Mumbai in market when yash screamed at herabout Arpita
Other thing is if yash really love her after he find out the truth , he should stand by her in same way he spoke lie front of his family about paradi in order to protect his family and to save prateek marriage
In sinthia’s house ladies are more complicated than men, generally. It is the other way around men hide the truth
Uf this buajee “mere Bhagwan ke kasam ” make me cracked up too “Ajj tho boot der soi.”
I think I need to be little easy on me, next wk my test guys. Do not forget to watch ZRA award on Sunday
gurmet Ritvik kartika ankita are performing. This PV, is getting heartache can live without it cannot live without hum….
SJ
December 01, 10:25Suni and Afreesh
In my opinion, allthough my opinion does not matter to the writer, Arthi should do
1. Tell yash, yash jee I am going to tell you bitter truth of my life
2 I am not widow I am divorce, Parsant rejected me when i was pragment and left so ma baujee tod parsant as far as your concern you are dead for all of us. I did dd not know , your family was not aware with that truth, by the time I found out , it was too late, maa , baujee made me swear not to tell, my concious were eating me , every time I tried to tell ma baujee stop
3. I never met Parsant in Lalitpur , on karwachouth ansh called me when I went to maa baujees house i find out Parsant is ack and have cancer and ansh is his son, he need BMW at urgent, and been pressured by ma baujee. I was very confused. Now you are my present , I love you, want to spent life with you. It is upto you yash jee forgive me or not , love me or not , I will not leave ths house or you
That sit 1, 2,3. Done done , be a modern woman rather than hurting every one
3 minuet thing done done .
All 3 acter are very good looking and talented in their own way.yash is honest reserve, Aman s bubbly
Talk talk does not think, Parsant is evil. Every one s doing good job, but Yash have better psych
4. Parsant ave cancer, ansh his son
SJ
December 01, 10:28THIS WORD IS BM (bone marrow) NOT BMW! LOL
I seare one of these days either I’m going to kill myself o throw ths I PAD
SORRY
Suni
December 01, 11:33SJ , you are correct , she should confess the entire truth ….hold nothing back . There is so much at play in this show however. I have always questioned her and Yash’s position amongst the other couples . They are in the middle . Aarti is well balanced in terms of traditions and modern thinking . She is well educated but stays at home with the children and , as we saw with Payal , she is inteligently able to guide their education . She is able to support their needs . . She is not totally like Vidhi since she also caters to Yash’s needs . She is not career orientated as Pari , for she has accepted her role as mother and wife , after marriage , although she is very capable ( from what we saw of her when she worked withYash ) .
Afreesh
December 01, 14:41SJ …..your advice is 100% acceptable….it’s very easy to handle the situations but she is making things very complicated yaar….I know, you are concern about her life, but she is ruining Yash’s life and also giving hope to prashand by her activities….when prashand driving the car why she sat at front seat…..did u noticed prashand gladness when she decided to come front ?
You correctly mentioned, she is not grateful to Vidhi….not only vidhi she is not grateful to Yash & his entire family but blindly trusting & supporting & assisting to prashand & his parent…..on top of that she compares Yash with God…..how can I forgive her?????
hn
December 01, 05:32I think the writer again disturbes the story so that aarthi wonn`t tell truth to yash and yash feels wrong.oh god our blood pressure levels will not be normal if this happens.any way i expect that aarthi will tell true and yash accepts her with dragging the serial
adi
December 01, 02:50I hope things go as planned for aarti… N I hope the truth comes out der. N hope they express they love for each other I jst luv them . I’m drz biggest fan eva
madhu
December 01, 00:51wow amazing pics plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Raji.trs
November 30, 23:05Nice episode…
SJ
November 30, 21:59Suny you are funny I made you laugh, Arthi eating Parsant. You know once I went Inia for charity work
When. I was traveling, I saw n village near the river some people were the cloths and beating hem with like cricket bat, was thinking to call someone in India And ship to arthi so. Can beat Parsant and little bit that bajee too.
See when I said we dd not see any ramdullary , ths time n Diwali yash did call by me he said hay where is arthi jee, he sad baujee. Went ths se
Where s Afreesh , Sophia and Jow. Like to see in flash back ash imagining arthi running on beach
And putting bangle scene and tat dahi handi. I do not know why they discontinued Aman( adrash choudhry) he is so good looking and a very god natural acter. Ithink Arthi will need him to clear
Both of them need lot of prayer. Arthi jee I hope your dinner goes romantic
Suni
November 30, 22:21LOL SJ , you have such great ideas !! That would have been a very funny scene if Aarti called in that group for Prashant and Bhua 🙂 . They are giving us our last supper I think , lol with that dinner date . Aadesh was cute but Vineet has a softer more pleasing appearance to me . Vineet also has a better physique than Adesh in my opinion . But I agree , bring back Aman , if we have to go through hard times with the show , the more handsome faces to look at , the better 😉 .
Afreesh
December 01, 06:14SJ & SUNI ……if you guys discussing such matters…..I’m readily available …..yeah, if Aman comes, he may make her to get some sense. As suni said, we can also be bussy for analysing who is looking more handsome at each scenes
actually, I ‘m highly disappointed with Arthi… ..Even Yash forgive her I won’t. I don’t like to hurt you guys by passing my hatred energy on Arthi’s characterisation …..that’s why I’m keeping myself away from current track…..
Suni
December 01, 06:41Afreesh yaar , I like that lol . We could indeed debate who is more handsome .! I rank
(1) Gourmeet
(2) Vineet
(3) Adesh .
We need to find ways to survive !
Afreesh , please do not withhold your thoughts on the present track simply because you are sensitive of our reaction . It would defeat the purpose of our discusdion ,as your points are always so valid , even if they differ .
Suni
December 01, 07:58Afreesh you are afraid to hurt us but I have a strong sense of how you feel from our previous discussions .
You believe that Aarti deserves her faith should she lose Yash at this point . If Yash does not forgive her it would have been brought about by her own hands and not Yash’s actions . He is trying to please her in every way possible . She is not changing herself .
At this point she should know better how to hold on to her man . Her loyalties should be first and foremost to a Yash and to no one else . She should consider hers and her families feelings above everyone else’s . Aarti should have said something like this to Shoba …
” Sorry Shoba maa , you asked me to move on and I did so upon your insistence , even though I was reluctant . Yash is my future now . I hold no loyalty to Prashant . I do not mean to hurt you in any way , as you have always been my strength before ,but the sands have shifted and Yash is my life now . I cannot make such a major decision without consulting him First . You hold no power over my judgement now ” .
I believe that you are very angry at Aarti for not being the wife she should be to Yash . Men as honest and kind and caring and almost perfect as him do not exist outside most of our imaginations . She is a fool to not take mor care with his emotions . …
In many ways she has disappointed us all by not being able to make the distinction between right and wrong , past and present loyalties . She has dug her own grave , but I don’t want Yash to allow her to go into it . I cannot fully imagine how hurt Yash would be , but he would also be as guilty as her if he doesn’t try to save THEIR marriage . He shouldn’t care one hoot about Prashant . He had his chance , he didn’t die like Arpita , he chose to let Aarti go .
Suni
December 01, 08:43Afreesh , I am thinking to much now yaar . I need your opinion. I remember asking once before ” where did all of Aarti’s love for Prashant go ? ” Arpita died and Yash sort of had it easy in comparison to Aarti , because he never faced open rejection . His ego was left intact though his heart had been badly bruised . Aarti had to question herself , what did I do wrong ? am I not good enough ? am I unloveable ? That must not have been easy for her .
We never saw her express her feelings about this rejection to anyone . I am left sadly questioning her true love for Yash . Up until the point of remarriage , she held true to her belief that Prashant would change . It was only after meeting him at the temple and finding him to be his old selfish self , did she agree to move on . I wonder however , what upset her most , what motivated her decision at that time ? Was it his interest in the Dubey house or was it his lack of interest in Ansh . Ansh who was her world , wanted a father and from her attempts on sports day , she realized that she could not fulfill his needs . We have studied the stages of Yash’s love without recognizing the stages of Asrti’s love.
When Vidhi and Prateik tried to push her into realizing her love for Yash , did she really fall prey to their efforts ? It would have sensitized her to Yash’s attributes , yes . But does she care for Yash now the way she once did for Prashant ? Yash saved Ansh , that softened her heart , made her realize and appreciate Yash’s self sacrificial love for a child who’s own father rejected him .
When Shoba pronounced Prashant dead on arrival at her house because of his greed , she forced Asrti to accept him as dead . Why did she have to be forced to leave this man behind ? He caused her so much pain . She opened the door to the Schindia house afterwards with a promise to secure their happiness , to make it her duty to protect . Does she feel that it only meant saving Yash from himself to please Gayatri , and saving Pari to please Prateik ?
Why did she run to Prashant’s side for KC ? Like SJ said call him an ambulance and send him on his way . She gave up Arpita’s bangles ( I never liked them anyways ) . But they were given to her as a sort of rights of passage .-” Here take these , you are now responsible for Yash’s heart , please take the utmost care of them and by extension his Heart . You are his wife now , not Arpita ” .
Is that why the writers got rid of them before she went to Prashant’s side ??? She should not have been there !!
Afreesh
December 01, 09:08Suni…I agree with your ranking…(ha….ha…ha)
and then as usual you caught the reason for my upset. The way you described the conversation between Shoba & Arthi is really wonderful yaar.There is one more point need to be added “If Yash didn’t save Ansh from kidnapper, now there would be no option to save Prashand. So, he has the first & foremost right to know the truth.”
Suni….I feel… not only Arthi’s love is going to be testified by Prashand’s entry. Perhaps, Prashand is a big challenge to yash’s love and his belief on love and life aspects. We know, Yash has conquered his past illusions with huge struggle, but he is still doesn’t have clarity of his wants and desires. Somehow, he got the message from inner sight that without Arthi his life would become empty. similarly, there is no valid point with him to say no to Arthi’s pure love.
Now, he has to answer to himself
1.whether he love her the most? or he just accepted her love?
2.If the answer is that he love her then how much? more than Arpita? or less than Arpita?
3.Which love is most important?
4.Is there any distinct classifications are there in love?
5.Is it I can live my life without Arthi as I did so with Arpita’s absence?
Once he is able answer those questions he will be getting clarity of his 1st love theory and what he really wanted….love is boundless…it has to be experienced purely by the individual without any abstain. Obviously, we don’t want him to accept Arthi in his life as because of her sincere love or for the sake of unborn child & his daughters or his family welfare .He should feel for her without any obstacle and hesitations.
Suni
December 01, 09:36Afreesh , what you said about Ansh is so meaningful . Yash did save Ansh when Prashant neglected his duties towards his own flesh and blood . Who has more rights over Ansh ? Yash established himself as savior and protector of Ansh long before Prashant even acknowledged his legitimacy . Mr Dubey was the one to call Prashant at that time . I throw even more shame on him now . Selfish bastard , even now he teaches Ansh to lie . Forgive me , I know u do not like to discuss him, but man , he angers me !
Afreesh
December 01, 11:57Suni…you are right we didn’t discuss deeply into stages of Arthi’s love…Eventhough I have many complaints and irrirations on Arthi’s stupidity, I’m watching her feelings minutely…let me describe her feelings from begining
1. The reason behind Prashand & Arthi divorce is not explained deeply. But, we have the clues that Prashand’s parents supported Arthi, in that case the main problem might be with Prashand.why she was waiting for him to come back?…Arthi is a female who doesn’t want to give up easily. Perhaps, she might be knowing that his second choice won’t be worthy as she knows the idiotic thoughts of prashand. Here…I should dictate…from begining she had no respect or admiration for Prashand as she has with yash, and dominated him for no reason.(If you see the earlier episode she created a scene to get him beat by public just for 10 minutes late of his arrival…the same sequence she did with yash at Mumbai while running on the beach, but she never allowed the public to beat yash by instantly informing them that he is her hubby). Why she always cherish Prashand’s memories????….it’s a kind of illusions almost like yash had with his dead wife, here we can justify her feelings atleast the person was alive not dead…Why she refused for remarriage?…as like as yash she had the belief that without love there is no meaning on marriage. Her faithful love was not appreciated by prashand and how can she love or expect love from an unknown man by the name of marriage…
I hope….I cleared your confussion regarding the feelings which she had with prashand. Now I will move on to the 2nd question…
1.After prashand…nearly 4 years she survived her life without man’s touch and love apparently her femininity has been shut off and she virtually acted like a man. I felt…when she touched by yash frequently before and after engagement her femininity was challanged by him and to get rid of it, she might have responded with irritated enegy.(it’s purely my openion…I’m not able to accept that she misundertood him only by Mansi’s words). Otherwise, she might have faced him without any hesitation and informed her views regarding their marriage. (I should mention here….this is what yash too had with her.He informed his views to her through Prateek, why he couldn’t say to her on face to face?…)
2.When yash cleared out his expectation on the first night of their marriage, she started respecting him instantly and also she tuned to act according to his way without any question…(on that night, while they listened to Paridi words “will you spend the whole night for repairing the bed” Arthi started to laugh, but quickly stopped when yash glanced at her.)
3.It is impossible for Arthi to shut her mouth, but with yash she crawled to find words…why?…actually, she was disturbed by his manliness unconciously. (she admitted it to herself in the earlier episode when he found her under the table while she was cleaning the kid’s room. She said “why I become mute if I see Yashji around me”…this is what she told to Aman at Mumbai when he suggested her to show attitude to yash)
4.She got the full trust when he saved her son and also that is the moment her soft heart started to melt… she missed him badly when she departed, apparently she started loving him unconciously.(As like as yash she was also enjoying the company of yash…). But, conciously she refused her feelings towards yash when Shoba asked her whether she love him
5.As I told you earlier, they both have rejected each other strongly at the same time they become helpless to their attraction towads each other’s appeal. She kept herself bussy with the kid’s work as like as yash loaded himself with official work. Certainly, she might not have realised her feelings without the help of Vidhi & Prateik & Shoba
6.When he stuck on the car…she expressed her true feelings, but immediately she recognised & alarmed not to express her love by hearing Arpita’s name from yash’s mouth.
7.Her confession at beach was the moment she felt care free…which was purely an unconcious act. (as you said…even yash’s expression was also quite confusing…first he get shocked and become furious then later he acted like frustrated)
So…for me there is no doubt on her love towards yash. She does everything to Prashand for the sake of Shoba, there is no second openion on it.
Where she fails?… she should do it with yash’s permission not by making her as well as yash’s life into risk. She is behaving like a complete idiot as if she doen’t know about yash’s compassion.
Afreesh
December 01, 13:12Suni…earlier discussion I did much analysis about yash feelings and hesitation…finally, till now I couldn’t get any clear idea of his thoughts. Suddenly, something hitting my mind….Is it can be the reason? you tell me…
According to my previous discussion there are two blocks not allowed yash’s sensual energy to flow…1.Arpita’s obsession 2.Arthi’s refusal for intimate relationship.
Right now… he shattered Arpita’s part entirely, which is evidently proven by keeping Arthi’s pictures similar way of Arpita’s postures….Thoroughly, Yash’s heart become clean and clear to accept Arthi and conciously he admitted to himself that he love her.
Then… what make him to call her Arthiji???….who stop him to go near her????….
Is it the writters are planning to deal with those fact in the future episodes???
Unless he consider her as his wife, he cann’t call her Arthi….(he has to feel possessive)
Unless Arthi express her approval for closeness, he won’t reach her
In life every challenges brings growth and energy….so, Arthi & Yash has to face the hurdle(Prashand)to step ahead in their life…Okey
But who has the initial responsibility?
Absolutely the answer is Arthi…1.She has to face the situation honestly without any fear & worries 2. Significantly, She has to prove herself to yash that her sincere & true love is only for him & not to any one despite of speaking to herself
If she handle the situations properly, then Yash’s hurt might become less and he will get the energy to solve the situation and their life will be saved
Suni
December 01, 21:59Dear Afreesh , I apologize for the late reply . I was invited for a trip to the beach and I couldn’t resist going 🙂 . .
You have given me a lot to think about yaar . I will reply to your last comment first . I agree that the writers are keeping that ” Ji ” there for a reason . They do nothing without reason on this show … . “Ji ” is used as a formality or as a way to show respect but where such formality has turned into familiarity and mutual respect is understood , it has no real place . My opinion is that ,although both Yash and Aarti maintain the use of “Ji ” , I get the feeling that Aarti is only holding on to it because Yash continues its use . Yash uses it as a sort of invisible barrier , as though if he drops his defenses , he will surely lose his heart Completely . It keeps him from losing control ; as though the next stage of their relationship would start only after he is ready . He has given her Arpita’s place on the wall , but is she there simliarily in his heart ? Why did he arrange the pictures in a similar way to Arpita’s ? Aarti is not the same as Arpita . What was he thinking when he arranged them ? About replacing Arpita or accepting Aarti ? I wondered , what would he do to these pictures when he finds out the truth ? Would they hit the flaw in the same way as Arpita’s ?
You rightly stated that love is boundless . I completely agree . Therefore , can or should love be measured ? Is it correct to say that he loves Aarti more than Arpita or vice versa?Isn’t it ok if his love for both women is the same ? When he accepted Arpita as his wife , he did so with a commitment to love and cherish her forever . How can he love Aarti anymore than that ? Love is a powerful force and should be given unconditionally without expectation . Love someone because they are who they are ; not for who you think they are or what you want them to be . No strings attached .( I must acknowledge our discussions , IQ is of utmost importance in guiding your choice of a mate ). If Yash loves Aarti completely now , he should not hesitate to forgive and understand her , since love contains exactly that ; forgiveness and understanding .
Let us examine Aarti’s life thus far . She was an orphan ; no surprise that she was a little rough around the edges . She had no family support as Yash did growing up , no loving mother nor strong father figure . She had no astrological guide to finding true love . She mistakenly chose Prashant as her first love . She was accepted as a wife by Prashant and had a family of her own for the first time . Shoba being the woman she is would have made a huge place in her heart for an orphan like Aarti and would have pampered her . Prashant being the jealous fool he is , would have resented her closeness to his parents . He saw her more as a threat than a wife .I agree that she belittled his masculinity when she had him beaten by the mob . Maybe her love was not yet mature or maybe she felt secure enough in his love to think that Prashant would forgive her . But , that was before marriage . Remember the way she focused on his untied laces when he left her ? That did not show her to be a neglectful wife . Like you said once before , he did not appreciate her motherly type love ,which she learnt from Shobha , her first real teacher in such matters . I don’t think that Shoba would have scolded her much . She was pretty much allowed to be herself .
The writers enjoy repeating similar situations with obvious differences . They do this in order to show us the characters’ growth over time , as they always react differently the second time around . She did not allow the mob to beat Yash because her character had become more understanding and yes , she respected Yash . Another example is the bathroom scene , she wanted to escape immediately the first time , but next time she relaxed and counted tiles . Funny Yash wanted out more than her that time around . Did he not trust himself with her ? That would mean he felt her presence strongly and did not trust himself to be alone and in close proximity to her . For him to feel that way he must have sensed her willingness to move forward ; for if she had closed the door completely on such matters he would not have been so worried .
All her life ,the only one to this point to offer unconditional love to Aarti , has been Shobha . This is the first time she asked anything of Aarti . She is her mother and her conscience guide . But this time Shobha was blinded by her son’s imminent demise and her desperation and Mr Dubey’s pressure , made her unable to judge the situation properly . Yash has a whole family of supporters . How many are 100% loyal to Aarti ? Perhaps only Pratheik as even Vidhi doubted her actions with Arman . I will never say that she is correct , but I understand her anguish .
Aarti deserves unconditional love . Should Yash attempt to give up his love for Prashant , he will be sacrificing his heart for Aarti , not Prashant . He will be forced to question his theory when he is confronted by Aart’s story . You referred to his first love theory . He could very well still believe in that theory But reasoned that Arpita is no more . Yash also deserves unconditional love . Only by rejecting Prashant and accepting only Yash , for better or worse , will she prove herself capable of delivering such a powerful emotion .
Suni
December 01, 23:15I must add that I think that Yash loves Aarti for who she is . But he is still assessing his love . She is not always even tempered like Arpita and she appreciates a good joke , even at Yash’s expense . He has accepted the rose with its thorns as Prashant pointed out . Thus far he hasn’t really done anything intentionally wrong towards Yash and Aarti , instead he has served to open Yash’s eyes to a few things . Hope it stays that way .
Afreesh
December 02, 07:58Sorry Suni…I typed a big reply, but I lost it….I have to type it again….the beauty on our discussion is we never encourage ourselves to stick at one point…we always motivate each other to expand our view and knowledge.
Let me start my reply…pls wait
Suni
December 02, 08:05Afreesh , here I am left to wonder , how do you know that I am waiting for your reply ? Lol …
Afreesh
December 02, 09:06Suni…I don’t think that yash will throw her pictures or wil be getting annoyed instead he would become deeply hurted by her long standing lie and deception(if things become worst beyond reasoning). But, Yash believe in equality, when he can take his own time to depart his dead wife why don’t he give her time to get depart completely from Prashand. Everything is happening in front of his eyes and he become connected with Prashand too. So, there are endless possibilities are still available for proper reasoning & understanding the situations. Let’s see what he does….
I don’t think Arthi will drop ji…because she respect him more than anything and comparing him with God. But Yash conciously holding it….even the promo he said I love you Arthiji…He has to think & feel that she is mine. I agree with you… the possessive husband or lover need to emerge from his part to drop that ji…probably,he will get it when he faces Prashand virtually.
I agree with your statement on Shoba & Arthi connected relationship, one more point need to be added is….without Shoba’s effort there is no chance of getting the man yash & the present life.So, Arthi might have justified her activities with that consent
I’m afraid to type more….let me sent it first & again I type the balance
Suni
December 02, 09:16I was occupying my time by looking at some of the episodes you mentioned , I looked at the scene of Yash and Aarti going to bed on May 3 rd more than a few times to gather what I feel about that look . Aarti knew that Yash was bothered by her presence and they both reached instinctively for those pillows . The sound of Arpita’s bangles ( funny how we never see them as Aarti’s bangles ) alerted Yash to not only Aarti but , it also reminded him of Arpita . In that moment his thoughts were instantly drawn to past memories as he looked longingly at Arpita’s picture . Maybe he missed the intimacy he shared with Arpita , but I am hesitant to believe that he longed for Aarti in any way at this point . I wondered if he considered how Arpita would feel about him sharing his bed with another woman . He was still very loyal to his dead wife .
. Remember how vehemently her scrubbed away the bindi on the glass ? Something in him resented Aarti’s presence . Resented her taking Arpita’s place in his life . But his anger spoke volumes …. how can he be so greatly affected by such a small speck ? He had grown accustomed to an empty life . That bindi was such a tiny blemish on the glass , but he erased it with so much effort , so thoroughly because it represented Aarti . He had no problem with her clumsiness outside the bedroom , when she dropped the spoon . why the hard look when he tripped on the slippers in the bedroom ? She can be caring wife and mother to his kids but she has no place in the sanctitude of his heart which ,he still kept guarded for Arpita . Now this same man has Aart’s pictures everywhere . Wow !
Suni
December 02, 09:21Your point is excellent that he needs to give Aarti her time to deal with her hurt and anger towards Prashant . I also feel that those pictures would remain . It took what seemed like a lifetime for them to go up . They will serve as reminders to Yash in the future about How much he loves Aarti now . Like SJ said , flashbacks .
Suni
December 02, 09:28What if we are thinking of the ‘ji” in the wrong way ? We feel it disconnects them in some way , but what if like you rightly said , it shows their mutual respect for each other And maybe it in fact connects them . Aarti and Yash are different but also the same in many ways . We might miss the Ji if it is gone , it is something esoteric to their relationship .
Afreesh
December 02, 10:28Suni…the ways you described about their behaviours in the bathroom scene is wonderful.
Yes…we need to discuss about that unforgetable scene…Neither of them are not ready to be inside the bathroom even for a second. I thought the main reason behind it was yash’s half naked state, She never seen him before like that and yash left out with mixture of shyness & tensed expression. Their tension was carried out as long as yash gets his towel.I noticed one more thing, with Arthi he never tried to cover his full body as he did it when his family members behind the door.(the reason might be Arthi has seen him with towel several time).I wondered about Arthi’s reaction…first she tensed and then she adored & seceretly laughed at him later she was bussy with something else.I never see any sensual energy from Arthi(during that time conciously she was in love with him right?…I remeber someone comment….”idiot Arthi doesn’t even kiss that wet guy”….)in that scene we have seen new yash who was talking with countless words.(the changes on his conversation has been displayed by the writters)Perhaps, they get embarrassed only when vidhi teased them. Their comfortable state made me to understand when they had guts to share one bed what’s the problem on sitting together at bathroom.
If we consider the second bathroom stuck…Arthi wanted to run away at any cost, but Yash was very cool and never tried to go out rather he wanted to spent sometime together inside the bathroom. Yeah….this time I have noticed…sensual tension with Arthi, but why yash was so comfortable???
And consider the bed scene at Mumbai….he was adoring her and almost wanted to touch her hair, but quickly recovered as soon as Arthi wake up and ran away with excuse as if he has done a big sin. And with recent episode bed scene….he adored her and openly conveyed it to her brilliantly that she was looking beautiful. Why he wanted to convey it??? he was very sure that she doesn’t have any objection on it & also she would feel glad.
Come to the night scene at pregnancy issue argument… finally he wanted to console her with warm hug…right????….why he expanded his arms and waiting for her action??? he can do it by himself…
why he wanted her to take decision?
Come to Diwali night scene….I remember, you have poetically commented about Arthi’s lay down on his arms…did you noticed his expression? it was the mixure of loving & proud feeling
I was the one bothered about his teasing comments regarding Arthi’s adoring look, but later on I understood that was the moments he was enjoying that he is loved by some once again in his life….(Yeah…Being loved is better than loving…loving some one is different feeling but loved by some one is a joyous thing…it’s something special). Even Arthi did the same thing with him at KC and Blouse Scene.
And one more thing suni…He said her anger made him to feel glad but he didn’t know the reason….you know again I think… it might be the soulful or unconcious message coming out from his insight that she love him more than his ex-husband????….
So…finally….I don’t find much differece from previous and today’s yash feelings. Now, he is able to express it openly and before he hid it tightly.
Afreesh
December 02, 11:04Suni…you are right…may be he looked at her for bangle’s sound and then immediately it remained him the intimate memories related with Arpita. Okey
Suni…his angry look on keeping bindhi at mirror & careless handling with spoon and misplaced slippers & keeping wet towel on bed are related with his perfection & cleanliness. It has nothing to do with Arthi’s placement & Arpita’s memories.He was Mr.Perfect….if you see the earlier episode….While Arthi serving him the Gheer, Gayathri warned her to serve him perfectly without spliting any drop outside of the bowl.
Actually yash was getting irritated with Arthi’s careless attitude but never he expressed it by words only staring he conveyed his irritation.she changed herself gradually…This is what she told him that she will take care of placing things at proper place when he slipped out by her slippers.
If you see the later epoide, when they seperated first time…he had seen the bhindi at the mirror, but he didn’t remove it & he looked at it longingly(Yedilhe…song was in the bg)
Suni
December 02, 12:05My goodness Afreesh ! Shashi and Sumeet Mital are brilliant storytellers ! They pay so much attention to every detail of plot development . They make us analyze every minute detail because everything has, either a direct or , symbolic meaning . They deserve to win every award at the Zee Rishtey Awards . But not everyone appreciates the infinite details as we do unfortunately .
You have hit a nail on the head without being fully aware of it my friend . You brilliantly surmised that Aarti and Yash only became embarrassed of themselves when Vidhi pointed out the situation in another way . How come they both were able to relax and enjoy the moment , almost forgetting that they were locked in a bathroom . That did not scream sexual tension on neither of their sides . Aarti was love struck yes , but for the first time Yash spoke willingly about, Arpita and his relationship, to Aarti . Both of them longed more for each other’s understanding more than anything else in the initial stages of their love . They fell in love after marriage , but they did it the right way .
.. . Have you noticed that everyone has a secret life behind their bedroom doors ? Vidhi is comfortable to drop her burdens , Pari is her scheming self to Pratheik , recently Aarti argued with Yash over Prashant’s advice . She would not have done that openly in front of the entire family . .
……………In Mumbai , they had only just begun to know each other. Yash was sharing his and Arpita’s activities together , With Aarti .The kids were trying to unite them . There was the battle of the sexes with the arm wrestling match , lol . Everything was progressing at a very natural way . He felt attraction to Aarti but knew that the timing was not right , he was not emotionally ready . She tried to seduce him with that gum in her hair ( I dare say she put it there herself ! ) lol . But our boy ran away .
When Aarti confessed her love , he could not reply . He wondered silently how could she have gotten to that point so fast ? He could not lie to her . At that point he did not feel the same way . Why though , did Aarti’s confession burst out after a similar occurrence between her and Prashant had been relived by her and Yash ? What really triggered her revelation ? The writers force us to question .
He was angry at both Arman and Aarti . He saw through Arman’s plans . How dare they force him to behave unlike himself ! He refused to accept the logic that it was perhaps also his fault . That came after . His immediate response was to flee from that place that had caused so much confusion within him . He shattered Arpita’s pictures because his thoughts travelled to Aarti now and he felt as though he had in some way betrayed her and had disrespected their love . How could he make love to a woman that he did not completely love as he did with Arpita .? He saw this as being very wrong indeed . Arpita’s memories were sacred but he was slowly learning to put things into perspective When he was faced with tremendous guilt . I think that he was very selfish at this time . But eventually he confronted his demons . Aarti was the one who brought about his changed thinking ,when she gave him the silent treatment . He was forced to see things through her perspective then .
I don’t know why I always confuse the first scene with Yash and Aarti locked together , as a bathroom scene , lol . Remember when Pratheik opened the door ? My mistake . That time when Yash wanted to talk was during Aarti’s silent treatment . He was happy to have her there so he could find out what was wrong . Her silence bothered him then , and even to this day . He is almost like a child who wants attention , any attention , negative or positive , from his parents who he thinks are ignoring him . By appreciating Aarti’s every attention towards him now , Yash is begging Aarti to tell him what he desperately wants to hear now . ” I love you Yash ” . He is starved for her approval and her attention . It even led to him mounting up her pictures . He knows how to reach her heart and it bothered him no end to see his efforts rejected .
….. You are very correct . Aarti holds the key to their future her hands . The key to open Yash’s heart and to find all the love waiting for her within . They both unknowingly feed off the others energy . They are becoming one but outside forces are looming , very much like Prashant on KC Above the railing . But I am comforted by the fact that together they were able to keep both deeyas alight . The first on KC , the other on Dewali . Both time Prashant’s treat was near . Both times they emerged closer to each other .
I am in total agreement 🙂 . Yash looked so proud and pleased that Aarti accepted his shoulders to lean upon . Yash will always be proud that he can support the people he loves . He is such a good man . Only in fiction yaar 🙁 .
Suni
December 02, 12:24I think that we overlook a lot of the symbolism on this show . The use of colours to represent certain emotions . The bangles . The fact that they always catch each other when they are about to fall . I love how the writers make it work both ways . Th umbrella used by Aarti to keep the flame alive when Yash performed Arpita’s rituals . That umbrella symbolizes her commitment to keep Arpita’s love alive . She has no desire to replace Arpita , she understands his love for her , she helps to keep that flame alive . She wants her own rights her own place in his heart . How can she diminish his love for Arpita and expect her own to shine bright ?
Yash did not look at her angrily when she dropped the spoon . He quietly offered her another . He had a problem at first with her intrusion on his space . Remember how he would stand and stare at Arpita’s photos ? He is Mr Clean yes ( but with a perfect head of beautiful hair however ) lol . Do you know the character” Mr Clean “? But was it really necessary to erase that tiny bindi in such a heated way ? Why then did he accept it there after ? What changed within him ? Again they repeated a scene but with an immense difference . If it was a simple matter of Yash’s cleanliness , would it have been worth repeating ?
Afreesh
December 02, 15:56oh…Suni..Suni…you made me to laugh for long time like a mad…The way you said she tried to seduce him (ha…ha..ha…)I hope you didn’t mean to say that seriously.
we are very sure that Arthi never ever tried to seduce him in any way. If so, our boy can’t tolerate it for long time. You remember?….when she was dressing up with the wet hair (The scene…when she was planning to decorate the kids room and she was asking money from yash & he gave the locker no.& asking her to take herself) yash came inside the room and staring at her for a while…what she did?….quickly, she adjusted her sarry…and he get alarmed & changed his sight(These are the moments I’m actually blaming about Arthi’s idiotic activities…I felt like she insulted him at that moment)
And one more thing, he nicely started asking question related her husband…What she did? She cried for no reason…then he apologised for it & never asked anything related to her ex..(you complained he never tried to know her ex…..even he noted to her when she compelled him to say the reason for not celebrating Palak’s birthday he told her “did I asked you anything related to your past? why you are asking me?)
Come to the next scene….she went to clarify doubt on maths for vidhi’s daughter…What happened? she lost her control and looked at him lovingly when yash noticed it she quickly changed her sight…but what yash did??? he was looking at her lovingly…(this is what I mean my friend….she didn’t give him any chance to think her as his wife…he forced himself to keep her at a long distance as long as she confessed her love.)
I’m not complaining that she didn’t confess her love long time before…nothing like that to be done..but there are certain ways to make that arrogant child to come to his sense, but she didn’t try to do that. Why? Primarilly, Arthi respected him for his sincere love for Arpita… secondly, he requested her in a begging way not to take Arpita’s place from his life and promised her that he will give pure love to Ansh (when he did Arpita’s ritual)…he exactly understood what is his & her sensitive points. That’s why she hesitated to show her feeling to him… even she told to vidhi “Yashji doesn’t like to take Arpita’s place…vidhi replied her you can’t take her place but make space for yourself…
I’m not ready to accept that concept…but Pv writters message is “don’t complain or try to remove ex-wife memory from your husband instead shower him with unconditional love then he will erase his past feelings himself”…yes you are right they are wonderful at conveying the messages, but they are experts on giving stress to us by crime petrol & dragging & illogical events
Afreesh
December 02, 16:59Suni …..why are you raising questions on the discussed matter yaar….already we got the conclusions that their first seperation made them to miss each other….that was the beautiful moments…..that’s why he didn’t clean tube mirror..
Suni….you know pv didn’t try to show Yash as an extra ordinary man….he was expressing his emotions time to time apart of his control. The major problem with him was his false belief regarding his feeling & love. And one more thing need to be discussed is….according to the story not much days had passed ….they finished 200 episodes, but if we count the days after their marriage….it may not exceed even 3 months
You know Suni….I can justify his misunderstanding for Mumbai incident ( he didn’t insult her by reaching her place, whenever she reached him & touched him he behaved like a dog…I was actually irritated with Arthi why she goes infront of him & incurring all insults). But I can’t forgive him for his rude act on palak’s birthday…..if pankaj didn’t catch him, he might have beaten her yaar….that too infront of all the guest….how can he do that??? I know there was mistake from her side too, but he can scold her in his room or somewhere??? How arrogant he was….
That was Yash….actually, his condition was stubborn & arrogant child….Now he become only child….
You know why he become worried for negligence ???….. she was giving him care & attention all the time by her care taker loving method without absence despite of his robo attitude. He was silently enjoying it & reciprocate it when she needed…
Suni
December 02, 17:16Do you know the saying ” don’t throw the baby out with the bath water ” ? We are well aware that this is a Soap Opera yaar 🙂 .. But as far as soap apera goes , it is the best I have ever seen …. Unfortunately , I was quite serious about Aarti trying to seduce Yash . Remember , she was trying to adopt the caretakers advice ? She had become quite bold with her attitude . It would not have been impossible for her to try . If as you say , Yash is a man with needs , she also has her needs ….which woman in their right mind wouldn’t try 🙂 ? Remember her dance that Yash couldn’t resist joining in .
I will tell you why I accept the writers theory . If you wish something for yourself you need to also wish it for others . How can Aarti discredit Arpita ? What was her flaw ? Was she a bad wife to Yash ? If Aarti chooses to place herself above Arpita wouldn’t she appear arrogant ? Wouldn’t this arrogance be fueled by jealously ? Wouldn’t that diminish her in Yash’s eyes ?
I remember reading Shakespeare’s ” Hamlet ” for A level English B exams . I despised his character because he always procrastinated ” To be or not to be , that is the question ” he questioned himself about acting on information he had recieved about his fathers death . Should he take arms against his sea of troubles or not . He chose inaction . He died tragically in the end . He was a great character but his tragic flaw was procrastination . At that time I thought him to be an immense buffoon !! He should have acted In my books . Later I realized his fears , why he did not act ,he was not certain about his information and afraid of adopting the wrong course of action . Aarti has always deliberated with her self in a similar way . She confessed her past , but Yash was asleep . Shobha silenced her honesty .
… .One thing for sure though Afreesh , it doesn’t matter if your views are different from mine at times , I always appreciate your insight and I try to understand your viewpoint . Most times you are correct and I adjust my thinking . I enjoy our healthy debate as much as when we agree 🙂 . We may have reached an impasse with this issue , but I will always respect your comments and appreciate our virtual friendship 🙂 .
Suni
December 02, 17:45Forgive me Afreesh for restating the previous point . I did not mean to annoy you yaar . You are absolutely correct , there are elements of Yash’s character that are very dark indeed . His uncontrollable temper is very distasteful . The writers made him into such a mad man . I always try it figure out why characters behave in ways that are different from their true selves . Maybe his hurt and anger had been suppressed for way too long and exploded in an uncontrollable way when he was faced head on with the reality that Arpita can never return and Aarti should not try to be her
As I write this I am beginning to reason with your logic . I can see why you dislike the first wife being placed on a mantle . Is it that you feel that Yash is saying to Aarti that you can never equal Arpita in my heart . You will always be my second choice and no matter what I will always love you less . He told her do not even look at her pictures in the album , do not touch her stuff ; as though Arpita was a goddess .
Yash had no excuse for his behaviour with Aarti , but why did Aarti tolerate it for so long . Is this why you dislike her ? She should have been stronger , wiser even , to Yash’s ways . She should have found a way to replace Arpita sooner without Yash’s madness . She appeared weak because she was unable to reach the man she had married . She did not use her feminine powers to her advantage . Even now you see her as stupid because she is allowing all that she worked so hard to achieve , to simply slip through her fingers . You are hard on her because you want her to succeed , you support her , but she keeps disappointing us .
Afreesh
December 03, 04:06Suni…my dear friend….the reason behind our difference of openion is the clash of our EQ & IQ. Your EQ accepts the characterisation & things as it is.But my IQ need logical proof for every thing…Despite of that barriers my IQ is always influenced by you and guided me to think in balanced prospect….Thanks dear…
It’s not about Arpita…Ok..Ok..I admit…I became almost like her enemy due to yash’s obsession on her, but I started respecting her by the influence of your views… You know Suni, I have seen several remarried couples in my close relatives & Friends circle. I have the practical evidences that howmuch they incur hurts due to their partner’s blind love on their ex-wife. And I know the couples who seperated even after their remarriage. It’s very easy for us to advice them ,but those who face the injuries practically knows facts better than us.
Then as usual you caught the reason behind my hatred energy on Arthi and something else need to be added
1.She is not learning anything from her previous mistake…again and again doing the same mistakes like a buffalo..(hectic persnality)
2.She tries to help someone by the cost of destroying other one (risk your life not your beloved one)
Yes…I have the strong belief that she is not wiser enough to handle her husband. You just imagine…if she remarried with a typical man like prashand what would be the end results?…by luck or shoba’s effort she got a man like yash who can appreciate her inner qualities beyond men’s perspective. Did she handled him properly?…No, I can make it clear
1. In the begining,She gave him as well as his family enough hurts by the name of blind mother’s love towards Ansh (the same Ansh was tortured by her for hair pin matter & for promoting Palak and saving Prashand). That blindness taught her lesson by departing her from yash…then she came back to sense and started everything from zero…fine
2. She was doing things wonderful way until Palak’s Birthday….What she did?..She wanted to give happiness to palak by killing yash’s feelings.How can she do that?…if she has the power to convince him to celebrate Palak’s birthday, the same stregnth need to be used to pacify him for wearing Arpita’s cloth… right???…Why she took risk on his sensitive issue??…Who is she to do that?…If you notice the later scenes, yash become almost like a robo after Palak’s birthday…Then again she started with Zero to maintain her relationship with him.
3.Everything was going good until she met Aman…I don’t know why she become like a teenager and gave blind preference to him & his advice…Once again she came to Zero position…and started again
4.Now she is going to kill Yash by the name of Prashand & his family
Now,You tell me…Who is her real enemy?…Is that destiny?…No dear…Destiny always favoured her with a lot of good fortune…She is the enemy to herself and her beloved one.
And then…you are doubting that she tried to seduce him…No..not at all…Perhaps, my another complaint is She lacks on that technique too. (Ofcourse…it’s not advisable to do it cunningly…but she destroyed the chances, which came on its own way). Hence, yash was able to support her morality when she accused for adultery just becasue of her lack of interest on it. He clearly knows her intension by sharing bed with her, infact he might be respected her more for that quality.
Next complaint…she might have taken effort to change his grief state to normal state before falling for him.(she likes to make people to be happy….Didn’t she know how much broken he was? why didn’t she consider yash?) It’s not necessary that Gayathri has to push her to take wife’s right& give him pleasure & happy.
Suni
December 03, 08:47One thing we can agree on Afreesh , is that Aarti is an idiot . I have never argued that point 🙂 .up until the point that she gave Yash the cold shoulder , she had followed everyone’s advice but her own . Like you rightly said , Gayatri should not have told to be a wife to Yash . But this is a woman who really didn’t have a clue what to do with a man like Yash . We agree on this point as well . Vidhi and Pratheik advised her that she felt love for Yash . Shoba told her to go back and make your bond with Yash unbreakable . . Vidhi was the one who advised that she become like Arpita , hence Yash became unjustly angered . The caretaker advised her to be bold and bossy . Aman advised her to use her feminine charms . Everyone blamed her at Schindia house , they trusted that she could bring Yash out of his stupor then blamed her when he went berserk . But who advised her along the way . These very same people .
We saw the biggest change in Yash when Aarti herself changed . She became stronger and the unspoken Aarti , who had been silenced by Yash’s , family reemerged . She confidently spoke her love for him in the bathroom . She tied for strings at the ceremony . She made the decision to leave on her own .
It is the duty of both men and women to maintain a marriage . I have also witnessed the hurt and pain that an institution supposedly based on love can cause . First hand even . I thank God however that I do not , will not hold on to negative energy . I will forgive and let the universe deal with what it helped to create .
SJ
November 30, 20:00There are two things, ths is a real test for arthi and yash. If after knowing the truth Yash stand by her
Which in my opinion he should, he love arthi so much, he want Arthis happiness, he will try to push arthi towards Parsant now this s Arthis test , how much sh love yash and stand by him and beat the hell out of Parsant. . Even yash try to throw arthi she should still by ash ( ths s funny I like vineet R and his acting we all curse him in a negative roll , the say more negative roll get crushed more successfully acting s), Suni you are smart good thinking writter allready
Use the yash tantrum tech. Now they will av something else either yash cold behavior and will be hurting inside and having flash back having good time with arthi. let us see what writter comes up they all redy seeded yash head with suspicious under the stress if something happned to the baby, arthi s a dead meet
In family, yash will feel guilty and will n forgive himself .
Suni
November 30, 20:40SJ , the thought of Yash in flashback mode for Aarti makes me want to laugh and cry together . They almost killed us last time with flashbacks !!! We want to see new romance , not too much recaps . Hopefully they spare us such extreme this time . Just a few would work …I wouldn’t mind seeing the bathroom and nada scenes again 🙂 .
Aarti has been through so much on this show so far . It seems as though destiny is not her friend, as at every turn there is imminent disaster to her wellbeing . I agree that if she loses this baby she will die or be carried to the brink of death . I despise the way the writers are placing doubts in Yash’s mind . Maybe they want him to have a slight feeling of how Aarti felt about Prashant cheating her , idk . His emotions are so delicate , I don’t think that he could have tolerated Aarti’s pain of facing Prashant’s lies . Arpita was a faithful wife . SJ which do you think is more difficult for a person to deal with in a PV , loss of a spouse , or deception ? I think deception .
Suni
November 30, 20:45Lol SJ , I just got the image of Aarti beating the hell out of Prashant . Good one yaar lol , lol . If cancer didn’t kill him I am darned sure Aarti can !!!
SJ
November 30, 21:38Suni your comments are remarkable, I agree with you deception
Aryaa lover
November 30, 19:10The episode was amazing and yash and Arti both looked really handsome and beautiful <3 <3 I really hope the person who updated the episode should continue doing it many thanks and last but not least I hope Arti finds the courage to tell Yash the truth or he may regret it 🙂 I read he heard some romours that prashant will try to win Arti back, isn't he supposed to of cancer or something. Pls writers don't separate my Aryaa!!! Greetings to all PV fans in this forum
Suni
November 30, 19:27Hi Aryaa 🙂 . I also heard those rumors . I hope that they are just that … Rumors . They said that Yash would try to reunite Aarti with her first love ! The day they reunite Prashant and Aarti will be the day most of us stop watching . This is one of the few shows that offers such a high and meaningful standard of entertainment . For the writers to simply dismiss our feelings and go after far fetched plots would be an insult to our loyalty and love for this show . I hope such rumors never come true .
Aryaa lover
December 01, 06:58Suni the thing is Yash believes in the fact one should always be with the one they first fell in love with nd him trying to reunite Arti and Prashant won’t surprise me so much, it’s also a way In which they want to show us how loyal Arti really is towards Yash and his family. But looking on the other side they r also trying to show us is if Yash can really bear to loose Arti and I’m really looking forward to how all of this is goin to unfold itself and at the some time show very romantic scenes! I really miss the bathroom scenes 🙂
Suni
December 01, 07:32Agreed , I saw that another show even tried to copy those bath room scenes . I will say , no one does it better than the PV team lol . No one can surpass Gourmeet . Yes you are correct , it is about time Aarti recognizes that she is now the bahoo of the Schindia house , not the Dubeys ‘ .
Aryaa lover
December 01, 08:41I don’t think there is any other couple who can compete with chemistry Gurmeet and Kratika have!! They play it so well and that’s what makes the show very interesting and loving! I just hope with Gurmeets success going so well nowadays he doesn’t decide to leave the show, like it happened with the other show called Pavitra Rishta where the main actor left the show!!
Suni
December 01, 08:57I thought about that as well . I read about where Gourmeet rushed from the IPA awards straight to a taping of PV because he knew the importance of taping the KC episode . He takes his work very seriously and doesn’t like to fail at anything he does . Sushant had left because he did not want to play an aging Manav and also I remember something about him having a role on a big production . I think those 2 things could also force Gourmeet to leave , one if he gets into a dispute over the storyline or two ( the most likely one ) if his wish to enter the Bollywood scene comes true .
Suni
December 01, 09:00100 % I agree with you . No other couple can surpass Arya !
Arya lover
December 01, 09:58Hopefully we know that he is a man of his word and a very loyal person so cheers to that hahha 😉
SJ
November 30, 17:541. arthi is pressured by Dubeejee family not to tell the truth, more arthi wants to tell the truth sh gt scared
Last transplant should have any problem , she told straight to Parsant that I am doing for ma baujee not for you, she gets mad when she see him. She is fully devoted to yash and hs family on th other hand she is obligated to dubejees family sh was. Daughter in la they dictate thei own son case h hurt Arthi
She is a honest not a greedy person so she feels obligated, she is scared too , about her marriage , she love ash so much
2. She was out of it and scared when she got home 11 pm did not realize pictures on wall
When she go up and saw pictures she gt so excited , to see them like she found her love which she was waitting quite some time, did you reliz any time hapiness comes in Arthis life right away I t get hammered.
Still she does not gt upset. Somehow hw writter is conveying the story it is not matching allthough Yash and arthi doing acting very well.
I hope no trouble comes in Vidhi’s life. I am sacred for the explosion, as soon as yash family find out
Bua might abuse her saying someone else baby may be yash family can accuse too. Now it is ash turn , I hope arthi s able to explain the circumestances not telling the truth and let us see if yash stand by her
In my opening, if yash s tring to save his brother marriage after knowing Paris truth. Hw about his wn plus
Whole family stand by each ther and support thus is the beauty of the show.
I wish writter could define better way. Sometime beautiful story get twisted in such a manner you stared losing Intresting in show. These days everyone hav s much tension in their life , specially me when I see all these conspracy , my stomach turn up side down and stop watching. you want light and fun full
Does not matter when Yash and arthi gets hurt and keep to themselves and suffer inside , I get upset.
In my opinion , concept of remarriage there will be so many ups and down how you can come out of It make your marriage strong. If arthi build feeling for Parsant and go ack to him. That will be a wrong
Message to the society and to the arriage no one will trust. Like Liz tayler married to 10 people at last went to Richard burton the frist one nd at sat se as none.
Once n. while Arthi should give compliment to Vidhi and prateek saying bhabhijee’s I got where I m today cause of your love an help towards me. I do not see that. Like g never complement Vidhi all Arthi arthi
N yash and yash , now they at lead character, but normall when you live in combine family people do not accept one side comment.
Suni afresh do yo think my comment are good , if they are i will pet my ack LOL
Suni
November 30, 19:18SJ your comment is excellent yaar , you said what is on our minds . I liked that you stated the truth that ” now it is Yash’s turn” . His turn to support and love her through the difficult times , very much in the same way she did for him though out his erratic phase .
. . Why do the writers always find a way to pin it on Aarti ?? I mean, I want no pain to come Yash’s way or anything , but I am getting tired of Aarti always being judged as the wrong one in the relationship . Even during Yash’s madness everyone blamed her . Now it is the Dubeys manipulation that has her in this present dilema of sordid affairs .
You’re also very correct about Vidhi . I often wonder what fuels her ? The only off days i remember her having was with Pankraj , when she told she couldnt go to the movies with him and also when she advised him to wear another shirt as she has no time to sew back on his button ; another was when she told Pari to wash her own clothing . Her endless family duties affects her married life , but she is duty-bound to please Gayatri . She always seems to be doing the Schindia’s dirty work ; being at there beck and call with no appreciation ( like you rightly said ) coming her way . I am reminded of your funny comment that the Schindias are so rich , but they do most of their own work , lol .
.I do not like the way Gayatri favors Aarti at present ….simply because she is carrying Yash’s child . She does not show genuine love nor appreciation to Vidhi . Vidhi who has stood by her side for years . She takes her loyalty for granted . How can she genuinely love Aarti ? She loves her sons but does not extend that love to her bahoos . They are good in her books as long as they do no wrong to het precious sons , but it is ok if her sons do injustice to their wives as was the case with Yash and Aarti . I also agree that even Aarti does not appreciate , well enough , the sisterly love she receives from Vidhi .
. SJ , if Yash is the genuinely changed man we have been seeing recently , we have less reason to worry . He has not yet articulated his love ( like the writers cleverly and cruelly pointed out through Vidhi , to place more worries in our minds!! ) . We are left doubling Yash’s reaction . He came to her defense when she was wrongly accused with Aman . But this time the man involved is Aarti’s past love . Aarti has spoken nothing about her past to Yash , to this day , in their marriage . How come Yash had no curiosity about the first man in her life ? Strange behaviour for a man . Today we saw him rehashing Bhua’s words that Aarti’s dead husband holds more importance in her life . The only man to rattle Yash’s feathers and shake him into the reality that he loves Aarti is Prashant . Only when Yash faces the loss of Aarti , does he truly listen to his heart .
These writers are very clever . It will not be a simple matter of an angry Yash this time . They have already used that plot . They will find a way to turn Aarti’s dilemma into a new way forward for this show . Thus far they have surprised us in many ways . I do not think that they will disappoint us this time either .
Suni
November 30, 15:24Fabulous update Kinsanj !!! I love your sense of humour 🙂 . Only one very tiny bone to pick , Bhua is such a negative force , it is good that she keeps getting chased away . They should sign her up at Shaddi.com …they may still be able to find her a husband to annoy .
Afreesh
November 30, 15:47Yes….it’s really appreciatable work kinsanj …..Thank you ….
nay
November 30, 14:49huh!now its time for aarti to tel yash the whole truth about prashant
SJ
November 30, 14:18Uf this is emotional suffering. Hum.. Suni , Afreesh I told you arthi will look nice in chiffon sari
With less work and different sleeves. She look so slim and beautiful.
May be Dress designer follow my advise LOL
” JARA DIL KO THAM LO AYEE YASH JEE”. Tell arthi tell the truth before it is late tis is your test , if he loves you, he will believe you and support you and will stand for you. writter please ave better climax rather Yash goes out of control like after Mumbai and goes banana. We will not be able to handle
Have so much to deal in real life beside this torture. I think Ash is a good guy , he will understand
Afreesh
November 30, 15:07Oh my God….Sj dear they are following your advice only for costumes not for the story line….
Actually I felt very disappointed with her gladness regarding the picture & her repeated messages…where is her guilt of disloyal has gone???
Yesterday’s episode made me to feel okey…atleast she felt bad to face him….I don’t think she will tell the truth even sunday’s episode…
Suni
November 30, 15:41SJ dear , the PV team will always do right if they follow your advice on fashion as you are always spot on with your ideas . I don’t think that we will see a repeat of psycho Yash , but he may – in fact I won’t blame him – get very angry and hurt . Yash deals with matters at his own pace and hopefully this time Aarti’s true love is able to reach him faster , for his heart is wide open to her now .
Yes Afreesh , I was also disappointed by her lack of remorse today . I know that she is the Queen of procrastination and believes sometimes that she should enjoy the moment and worry about her problems at a date to be decided . I think here we see a difference between Yash and Aarti . Yash’s problems seem to engulf him ,whilst Aarti is able to put them aside for a while . Recently Yash has begun to share the problems of his heart immediately as they develop . Almost as if he cannot bear to harbour them inside for too long anymore . Remember how quickly he revealed his conversations with Mr Dubey ? He is no longer the man he used to be who carried around his bag of troubles ; never revealing its content to anyone . It is going to kill him inside now to hide information from Pratheik and Aarti .